Safehold Training

monkey
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Safehold Training Feb 15, 2017 21:22:33 GMT

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Post by monkey on Feb 15, 2017 21:22:33 GMT

Today we were lucky enough to participate in some safehold training. This is something that we've been asking for for quite some time and either the requests were "forgotten", declined due to funding, due to it not being the done thing, due to SS not being able to confirm to providers that it was suitable for us etc........
We have been restraining and attempting to disarm LO in line with videos we have watched on You Tube which was the only way we knew how - today we find that we've been restricting her diaphragm and could have potentially caused her harm.
What we have learned today is not rocket science but will hopefully enable us all to remain safe. We haven't had the opportunity to try out our new skills yet but I certainly feel more empowered which will hopefully enable LO to be more relaxed knowing that I can be in control.
The trainer clearly knew her stuff and is frustrated that more adopters are unable to access this training - apparently Dr Margo Sunderland is now advocating it too.
Our SW attended so that she could ensure that a therapeutic / positive spin was put on it and she was satisfied enough to go back and recommend it to her managers.
Another step forward

Mum to BD (12) and AD (8)

esty ASB Member Single Adopter Posts: 888	Safehold Training Feb 15, 2017 21:45:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by esty on Feb 15, 2017 21:45:53 GMT Brilliant! How do they suggest restraining?
	Mum to AS Big Fish (19, 16 years at home) and AS Little Minnow (13, almost 6 years at home), came separately, and now a wonderful, feisty horse who lets me escape from kids with attitude and the drudgery of disability services and a top of the range adapted van provided by the council fulfilling their legal requirements!

monkey ASB Married Adopter Posts: 669	Safehold Training Feb 15, 2017 21:52:13 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by monkey on Feb 15, 2017 21:52:13 GMT Feb 15, 2017 21:45:53 GMT esty said: Brilliant! How do they suggest restraining? They tailor it to the size, build and specific behaviours that the child displays.
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Safehold Training Feb 16, 2017 4:57:25 GMT

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Post by daffin on Feb 16, 2017 4:57:25 GMT

Hi Monkey

We've also asked for training in safe holding - but been told "we do not support restraint."

Like you, we've been making it up as we go along.... but Monkey Boy is growing and I can no longer successfully restrain him in the way I was.

I am now in discussion with a private provider and will try to bring down the cost of the session by bringing in the local NAS (national autistic society) and some local schools.

What's the name of your trainer? Would you recommend them? What part of the country do they work in?

The people who designed Thrive recommend holding too - saying it helps a child feel contained and helps to bring down their affect, if done with kindness, while you are regulated and while verbally calming the child (no always easy, mid meltdown!). Having done a 4 day Thrive course I started trying restraint and it changed the landscape here dramatically - giving me more 'parental presence' and meaning that I wasn't cowering behind a bathroom door with Mouse while MB tried desperately to get to us.

Mum to DS, Monkey Boy (7) and DD Mouse (4)

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Safehold Training Feb 18, 2017 19:33:04 GMT

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Post by topcat on Feb 18, 2017 19:33:04 GMT

We have just signed up on a course run by the placement adoption services after long asking and it is not till April. They have been aware of the holding we have been using - as you Monkey, techniques gathered from You Tube but Brains also talked it through with SW - when pressed they said they would never advocate it but mostly dodged the question of what else we could actually do. However, after needing to restrain him in the car this week Brains decided he wanted to ring the NSPCC because we were hurting him. We got the social worker on the phone for him to talk to instead and she has told us to stop doing it - although again, no idea what one is supposed to do with a violent child in the back of a car on a dual carriageway. Basically we now lock the kitchen, lock the front door and put ourselves behind another locked door in our bedroom...make of that what you will.

Mum to DS Brains (15) and DD LittleE (14) with DH my hero

topcat ASB Posts: 582	Safehold Training Feb 18, 2017 20:26:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by topcat on Feb 18, 2017 20:26:43 GMT oh, and we refused to take him anywhere in the car for 2 days
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Safehold Training Feb 18, 2017 21:15:09 GMT

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Post by monkey on Feb 18, 2017 21:15:09 GMT

Topcat, the people that trained us gather information and then draw up individual behaviour plans which incorporate the holds the parents are trained in. That way the child can't make allegations as you can demonstrate that you've followed steps 1-5 (for example) and used the holding as a last resort.
In addition to the holding we also talked about keeping ourselves safe. Staying behind a closed door and creating barriers (cushions in our case) for flying objects were also recommended!
Can also recommend Crelling harnesses for the car - wouldn't be without ours now.

Mum to BD (12) and AD (8)

Post by monkey on Feb 15, 2017 21:22:33 GMT

Post by esty on Feb 15, 2017 21:45:53 GMT

Post by monkey on Feb 15, 2017 21:52:13 GMT

Post by daffin on Feb 16, 2017 4:57:25 GMT

Post by topcat on Feb 18, 2017 19:33:04 GMT

Post by topcat on Feb 18, 2017 20:26:43 GMT

Post by monkey on Feb 18, 2017 21:15:09 GMT