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Post by daisy1985 on Oct 10, 2013 19:29:12 GMT
Hey guys they boys moved in today!
And I'm already fazed! The boys are amazing and currently tucked up fast asleep in bed!
Huey is struggling to understand why he isn't going back to FC, wants to ring her to chat, misses her! He has just turned 4!
I'm terrified of saying n the wrong thing! HELP please anyone! Xxx
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Post by peartree on Oct 10, 2013 19:50:50 GMT
The very gentle, snug, low key stuff So you answer directly 'Yes, we are saying hello to FC in the morning ' If you need a wee you go into the bathroom and you can use toilet roll and give your hands a wash and dry We always leave the light on Dad Joe and me are just asleep in our pjs next door to you
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Post by peartree on Oct 10, 2013 19:51:52 GMT
Just gentle low key stuff
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Post by Ad-minnie! on Oct 10, 2013 19:53:48 GMT
Oh wow, they are at home with you!!! If you feel fazed, know that its very normal. As I posted somewhere else, I was emotional, overwhelmed, feeling happy and yet anxious all rolled into one (and many more emotions besides).
Gosh, I don't have any advice as my LO was younger when he came home. My instincts would be to allow him to express how he feels, to make him feel he can talk about how it is for him/his experience of leaving fc/moving to you and to explain that you are his Mummy and tell him what Mummies do (Have a look on Lemonade's post ... advice for adoptive parents about attachment).
I don't know if you have come across Dan Hughes and PACE (Playfulness, Acceptance, Curiosity, Empathy). But having been learning about it recently, it sounds as if it could be something you might find helpful with your 4 yr old LO. Its hard to sum up the approach.
I hope some other more experienced adopters will be along to give some ideas soon!!!
But just want to say that I think its normal to feel anxious about saying the wrong thing. As you and LO get to know each other my guess is it will become easier because your understanding of him will grow. Sounds like you are doing great just by the way you are already thinking so much about Huey and how it is for him.
Congratulations on your LO's being home. And massive cyber hugs as I realise it can be an overwhelming time.
Minnie x
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Post by annie70 on Oct 10, 2013 19:55:33 GMT
Hi Daisy - glad they are tucked up in bed...
We hope to have LO placed in November and have already spoken to FC about contact with her... out LO has changed FCs and still misses his old ones so occasionally he will ring them and have a chat... nothing heavy apparently - just needs to check they are still there and remember him (he is 6).
We plan to do the same with his current FC - but bearing in mind also he needs to attach to us and we need to be the ones to provide everything for him in the long run, we will manage the contact with FC and try to make it planned rather than reactive.
It sounds like Huey just needs reassurance that being with you is the right thing - that she is still there - and that she is thinking of him... that people don't just disappear out of your life...
I think it is fine to arrange a phonecall but I would not do it in a reactive way to his asking (I gather he is pushing a bit in other areas - which is only natural - but you don't want to set up a situation where he has his own way all the time!)...
So if he asks to speak to her again I would say that you know she is busy / out / asleep etc and that you will text her and ask when it would be okay to ring her for a chat... that way you can control when it is and - to a certain extent - how it goes... maybe specifically ask her to tell him that she misses him but that she is pleased he has a new mummy and daddy - but she won't forget him and they can do Xmas cards or similar...
Sorry it's a bit waffly - just had SW visit for panel papers and all of a dither... but hope that maybe helps a bit? Sending you hugs and chocolate Ax
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Post by daisy1985 on Oct 10, 2013 19:58:03 GMT
Thanks pear tree!
I am not sure if him speaking with FC on phone will help but more than happy to try it, didn't want to confuse him! He holds you to everything you say so I only want to tell him he can speak with FC if he can!
We told him we were just in next room in pjs if he needs us no nightlight as never had one but left bedroom door open and bathroom light on! I have also popped my side lamp on low dim incase they make an appearance!
I am so nervous they are just so perfect I don't want to mess up! X
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Post by daisy1985 on Oct 10, 2013 20:02:59 GMT
Thanks adminnie and Annie saw your replies after my last post!
Nervous and anxious are a good summary of today's feelings! Thanks for advice on planned call rather than reactive I will try that one next time! I know FC would be fine with calling him she cares so much for them!
Xx
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Post by annie70 on Oct 10, 2013 20:13:28 GMT
That's great that FC will be happy to chat... and you won't mess up ... you'll be just fine - one day at a time and softly / gently as PT says... I will be exactly the same 7 weeks today Ax
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Post by kstar on Oct 10, 2013 20:25:18 GMT
Someone somewhere along the way said to me that nothing you say or do will make anything worse, as in do any lasting damage... As long as sometimes it goes right. Better to try and do the right thing and fail then to leave them to struggle alone! Say anything that is true and sounds reassuring :-) sometimes with Starlet I just keep repeating myself, saying over and over that she's safe now, she's here with me, this is forever, I am so happy she's here, anything that sounds vaguely comforting!
A lot of the PACE stuff talks about validating feelings... So saying it's ok to miss FCs, you can understand why they would miss them, it must be very hard missing them so much. This makes them feel like it's ok to have feelings and ok to talk about them :-)
Try not to be too hard on yourself xx
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Post by sooz on Oct 11, 2013 7:35:01 GMT
My best bit of advice, which was given to me, is to empathise, agree it must be soooo hard for him and you understand but you don't always have to offer or give a solution, just acknowledge how he feels. Little will be feeling it too but maybe doesn't have the words.
And.... Welcome to these boards xxx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 7:54:50 GMT
As kstar said lost lots of re-assurance and validation that you know it is hard but that he won't ever be moving again, that this is his forever home and you are his Mum and Dad forever now etc etc.
Perhaps you can have a chat with FC and agree that he can phone her say every sunday night, or something like that. Later on that can go down to every second week, a month, and so on until he doesn't feel the need to anymore.
Lots of hugs and cuddles will help too if he will allow it, and remember he is only just 4 and is still a baby and is scared. Once the novelty of new parents, a new house, new bedroom, new toys wears off, he will be testing you, so expect the honeymoon period to disappear and some challenging behaviours to raise their head, he would be unusual if he didn't do this as he tries to adjust to the move. I always tried to imagine how I would have felt if I'd been whipped away from my secure attachment and taken to live with strangers - terrified I think!
You're doing fine, try not to worry.
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Post by patanya on Oct 11, 2013 20:55:51 GMT
Hi, this is so hard for our LOs - we were advised to wonder aloud particularly if our LO was upset or angry I.e I wonder if X is upset because he misses x and is feeling sad. If he said yes we would say they loved him but helped find hus forever mummy and daddy - us. We were also advised to make a photo album with FCs photos in and leave out for him to go and look at and bring to us to talk about. It was all very low key and driven by him. Now 16 months on he does not recognise them in the photos.we were also advised to buy a book with different faces on depicting happy, sad, angry etc so he could put a name to how he felt. The other thing is about keeping routines at the night the same if possible. I would also echo that things will probably get worse before they get better. But with time and lots of reassurance they will settle. Good luck x
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Post by moo on Oct 12, 2013 5:35:30 GMT
Some superb advice daisy..... I do the wondering too ( very Dan Hughes).... It is hard at first because you are talking in the third person.... It works brilliantly because they feel they have to reply because guessing is a good game & they feel they are helping...... Welcome To The Adopters Board...
Xx. moo. Xx
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