dinky
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Post by dinky on Jan 3, 2016 17:26:32 GMT
I think my brain has been fried due to sooooo much happening at once and I am having trouble completing the Our Story bit for DS's EHCP application. Can any of you give me some examples of the sort of things that you put especially for the learning achievement and educational progress and friends and relationship bits and what and why things need to change. How much detail do they want etc? DS is very complicated (like lots of our children are) and I don't want to miss something out that will get him the support he needs because I have put something in that is not overly important in the grand scheme of things. Think we are also having trouble with what is "normal" 10 year old and what is just "normal" for him!! Thank you for any advice / pointers you are able to give me. Dinky? xx
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Post by corkwing on Jan 4, 2016 9:51:32 GMT
Hi, Dinky -
We've started the process. What came across to me was that it wasn't that important in the scheme of things. They were happy for me to put in an essay or just a couple of paragraphs. Being the sort of person that I am, it's looking more like an essay!
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Post by runmum on Jan 4, 2016 20:02:08 GMT
Hi Dinky. We found it was certainly down to us to make the case for Monkey Boy needing an EHCP. The professionals did the minimum (with the exception of the EP) and we felt our input was needed to make sense of Monkey Boy's complexity - the like of which they had never seen. It's called an EHCP but unless you are able to say words they recognise like diabetes or asthma they have no idea how to take account of the health bit - sensory modulation difficulties or mental health conditions seemed to baffle them so we had to explain it - even to the paediatrician to be honest.
Under question 4 where it asks for a history with strengths and weaknesses we introduced MBs background before he came to us and then described his strengths and weaknesses under the headings suggested on the form. As regards developmental milestones we related MBs difficulties under each heading back to his developmental trauma. We referred to Holly Van Gulden's ideas and Bessel Van der Kolk's work in relation to developmental delay and trauma and our parenting approach i.e. PLACE and Great Behaviour Breakdown in relation to these ideas. In the next section we were clear that MB does not have good and bad days but all days are mixed. in the section about why we were making the request we highlighted 3 points i.e. serious concerns about
1. Lack of progression and his current trajectory. 2. Impact of MBs experience of school on his mental health and life chances i.e. poor academic attainment, poor self esteem and the impact on his chance of being able to perform a useful function in society and feel good about himself and the potential pitfalls associated with not achieving this. 3. The impact of MBs experience of school on his physical health - in his case not enough sensory input leading to severe difficulties sleeping. We then went on to explain each of these in more detail. We acknowledged the input that had been provided and clearly stated what that had achieved in terms of outcomes and his trajectory at the time which clearly showed without additional input he would leave primary school illiterate. We defined what we meant by this i.e. unable to read a paragraph hold the meaning in mind and answer questions about a text - in other words the basics he would need for secondary school.
We were granted an EHCP but we have to say we feel the battle continues because the targets set were great but the intervention offered will never enable MB to meet the targets. When we challenge this and the fact that the EPs advice has been ignored we are just told they don't do things the way the EP suggests because they have a very successful system already. We obviously say well it's not very successful for MB and so it goes on. We have offered to fund the intervention personally and got our MP involved and the Virtual School. After all that we still don't have anything like enough but at least he gets 2 hours a week 1:1 to do a dyslexia catch up programme but with a TA not a specialist teacher. So I would recommend giving the form as much welly as possible, girding your loins for a long battle but putting some champagne on ice in the event you don't end up with quite the same battle we've had - we have spoken to lots of teacher and parents and it seems some areas of the country are much better than others. Good Luck!!!
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Post by rosie on Jan 4, 2016 21:55:07 GMT
I agree with Runmum. You have to show evidence that he needs an EHC plan so the more detail the better. It will also affect the number of hours granted for 1-1. The EHC plans we have at our school have quite a lot of detail.
If he needs OT imput or speech and language or other support regularly make sure there are reports sent advising of his need for support, so that it is included in the provision section of the EHC plan. When you receive a draft copy of the plan make sure everything is included and if not let them know as soon as possible. They will try to leave things out I have found. I had a boy whose draft plan came through in the middle of the Summer holiday when there was no one there to read it. He was supposed to have OT included but because there was no one there to phone and check it was left off. Fortunately in this case the OT agreed to still work with him and push for it to be included at the next review; but they don't have to if it is not written on. Good luck!
Oh Runmum that is terrible; I thought the schools had to provide the hours stated on the plan. I must admit in our authority children with EHC plans or the old Statements do usually get their hours. We have children on 25 and 30 hours weekly. Sometimes they work in a group if appropriate but the support is primarily for them. The trouble we have is the fact that school has to fund the first 13 1/2 hours for each child out of budget which we struggle to do. So far we have just managed it but I can see if we had a few more children needing it; it would be very difficult. How many hours support is he supposed to have?
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Post by corkwing on Jan 5, 2016 10:02:06 GMT
Looking back at your original post, I see that this is an application. Ours is for a conversion from a statement, which is why it isn't so important, so my reply wasn't appropriate. Apologies for that!
For the original statement I wrote about 10 pages of A4. It was helpful that the form then had lots of sub-headings, such as eating, relationships with siblings, etc., etc. I don't know how much use it was in the statement, but has been for subsequent schools.
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Post by runmum on Jan 5, 2016 16:33:28 GMT
Hi Rosie - don't want to hijack dinky's thread but in our case the LA did not agree with the EP and so the intervention recommended by the EP did not go into the EHCP. We decided not to go to tribunal but rather to challenge them every couple of months on MBs progress with the woeful intervention that was included given that the plan does say he should reach year 5 standards by the end of year 6. I think we have made more progress this way - we would probably still be waiting for a tribunal now I think so at least MB has 2 hours a week 1:1 with a TA even if the EP recommended 5 hours/week for 1 year for catch up with a specialist teacher. He does seem to have made slightly more progress with the 2 hours (focused on doing Toe by Toe - an evidence based catch up phonics programme) than he was making with the group support he had before. So we just argue that he is still not on trajectory so needs more support. They are arguing of course that the trajectory must be wrong and needs to be changed to lower the bar. Outrageous in my view!
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Post by dinky on Jan 10, 2016 21:32:13 GMT
Thank you for the replies. I did the best I could at this time and it will have to suffice! Hopefully school's bit covers anything I missed!
Dinky xx
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