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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 21:45:12 GMT
Hello
it is so good to have the collective wisdom of others in our situation, what are your thoughts on this.
if PP+ is funding a TA on a 1:2 most lessons basis. what input would one expect our LO to be having within the lessons. Our LO needs and targets seem to be missed at the expense other child's more obvious needs and the TA was already in place for the other child - it is a mainstream secondary. should it be almost 50/50 TA time on average. funding is split 50/50
Corkwing you now so much more then me!
Thanks
Polly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 21:46:29 GMT
forgive the typo in previous post.it has been a long day and Merlot hitting the spot!
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Post by corkwing on Nov 28, 2015 7:45:57 GMT
Wondering what the situation was - when you say that the TA was already in place for the other child. You're not allowed to use PP+ funding for "business as usual", so you can't just say that you're allocating the money to pay for something that you already have.
If a TA is working with two children, how much input they get should depend on how much each one needs. But they're human and if I were the TA I'd probably spend more time with the one that shouted loudest or seemed more needy.
I get the impression that just employing a TA is a standard response regarding PP+ but isn't actually very effective in most cases, particularly if they're not well trained.
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Post by runmum on Nov 28, 2015 14:35:24 GMT
Although TAs are not well paid the cost of a TA per annum is over £10,000 so the cost of 50% of a TA is over £5,000 - probably more like £8,000 once you add on costs etc. PPP is just £1900. If your child has an EHCP (a statement in new language) then school gets an extra 6k/annum but if not then your £1900 does not go very far I'm afraid. This is the problem we had with Jealous Dog - he is over 2 years behind but nowhere near far enough behind to get an EHCP. We have agreed with school that he should do only core subjects homework now he's at the secondary school. Instead of the other subjects homework we teach him to touch type and we are doing Toe by Toe - a catch up programme for dyslexia - but this is all stuff we do at home.
Monkey Boy is over 4 years behind and just qualified for an EHCP but it was by no means clear cut despite having several mental health diagnoses as well as being so far behind academically. Even with the EHCP he gets 12 hours per week support from a TA but not 1:1 and is doing Toe by Toe for 2 hours which is 1:1.
Corkwing - agree. We have always argued that we don't really want TAs. They are all lovely but why give your most challenging pupil to the least qualified person. The Ed Psych recommended 7.5 hours /week 1:1 with a specialist teacher for one year at least for catch up. Sadly this just has not happened. We even said we would be happy with fewer hours and then agreed to pay for it ourselves but still it's all impossible apparently. If you have a TA half time and don't have an EHCP I would say you are doing amazingly well.
As regards targets make sure you nail them down to something measurable. This is why we are doing Toe by Toe - there are built in assessments of reading age and you can test then re-test every half term and calculate the ratio gain.
It's rubbish but it boils down to money and HR policies.
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