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Post by cowgirl on Oct 8, 2014 15:30:57 GMT
Hi
I know a 4yo not being dry at night is fairly normal but the blasted pull ups keep leaking !
This wakes him up and I'm running out of sheets, pj's and patience.
Its not every night and I've tried all the brands & sizes.
I've reduced his drink too. Fc gave him a bottle last thing at night so he has always had a bottle last thing & he says he is thirsty. Sometimes it leaks at midnight sometimes at 4am. My friends boy at 7yo was complaining they leak too.
I'm so grumpy as I can't get back to sleep once I'm woken. I know this post sounds all about me but .....
Any ideas ? What brand do you use ? He is a slight 4yo which I think is half the problem.
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Post by flutterby on Oct 8, 2014 16:06:57 GMT
Are you saying you have now reduced drink at night time? Because that is really (and was with us) crucial. I know he will say that he is thirsty because of the routine, but he does not need a bottle last thing. We took it away gradually, so that LO got less and less over 3 weeks and when we were down to 30ml, one day I explained that the doctor had mentioned that bottles at night would not be good for a girl her age and sorry we could not do this any longer. However, I would read an extra story each night, which she could choose to make up for the loss of the bottle from now on.
I am sure you make sure that he is well-hydrated during the day. We stop giving drinks completely after 4.30 apart from a gesture token drop in a toddler glass at dinner time. That said, our LO goes to bed around 7 but a good thumb of rule is to stop giving drinks a good 2 hours before bedtime.
If all this fails, maybe try a second nappy over the first one, you know the outer waterproof re-usable ones with an extra pad inside?
I really sympathize, being woken up each night having to change bedlinen and then deal with the washing the next day is so hard. Sleepless nights are awful.
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Post by mudlark on Oct 8, 2014 16:08:14 GMT
I totally sympathise as once I am woken that's it for me!
Peewit is a slightly built 4 year old. He wears Huggies pull ups, potty training pants size L he wears them every night.
I do not give him any drink after 6.30 he goes to bed at 7.30 If he says he is thirsty I give him a desert spoon of water...! I usually say its special bed time water!
I make sure he has a big drink when he gets home from reception so I know he isn't dehydrated.
It is awful....hugs!
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Post by runmum on Oct 8, 2014 16:14:57 GMT
My 8 year old boy is still in pull ups. Have tried all the brands and they all leak. My little one has sensory processing difficulties which are likely to be part of the cause. He does not wake up when he gets wet but in the morning we used to find everything was soaked and our washing machine busted because we kept having to wash the duvet as well as everything else. I found the ERIC website very helpful. We now do the following:
1. At home
Pull up and no pyjamas - saves the washing
Waterproof under-sheet then fitted sheet on top of that. Waterproof duvet protector - of the type that envelopes the duvet - you can buy them from the eric website with duvet cover on top.
If he gets cold because he's not got PJs on then he wraps himself in a waterproof "cover dry" with absorbent bamboo lining - see ERIC website
2. Away
Waterproof sleeping bag liner and then wrap him in the cover dry inside the liner
You can get alarms. Many people find that these train the child to recognise when their bladder is full - the alarm fits onto pants and goes off at the first drop of wee. You can get remote ones or ones with a unit that clips onto PJs - they are very expensive. We are due for an appointment at the enuresis clinic but I'm not sure the alarms would work for us because he would just play with it and break it and it would distract him from falling asleep which is a massive problem for us right now - not going off before about midnight ahhhhhhhh!!!!! But if that's not a problem and you can risk £135 ish then it might be worth a go.
Good luck!
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Post by doubletrouble on Oct 8, 2014 17:25:24 GMT
We stopped using pull ups completely by leaving off the bottom half of DD's P.J.s. We had a padded waterproof under sheet (Blue washable type you see in hosps.) from the continence clinic and because she had liked the feel of wet nappies & she didn't like the feel she quickly stopped weeing the bed.
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Post by lovelybee on Oct 8, 2014 18:46:22 GMT
We have the same problem. We usually change Littlebees nappy before we go to bed but still she can sometimes be wet through in the morning despite pampers baby dry size 6 nappies (bigger size than her weight) She is allergic to lots of nappies so difficult to change brands although we've tried most.
The ERIC guidelines look good. Will have a look at the duvet covers. Thanks for sharing the info runmum.
Hope you find a solution that works for you.
LB x
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Post by gilreth on Oct 8, 2014 19:02:56 GMT
we have had the same problem with Sqk - but discovered that it was in part because he was playing with himself in his sleep - so pull-ups were not fitted properly. I am afraid we now put cheap electrical tape round the top of them to take elasticity out - not tight but enough so his hands cannot wander into them in his sleep. Also don't give him anything to drink after 5pm (bedtime 7pm) . He is also not yet potty trained but this in part due to an issue with loose stools which makes it very difficult. He is starting to recognise when he needs to wee and is using toilet at school nursery and in children's centres when he goes with childminder so hopefully we will get somewhere soon.
But we rarely get a wet bed now with the tape which is at least something - I was going spare with the amount of sheets I was washing in the summer.
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Post by cowgirl on Oct 8, 2014 19:09:17 GMT
Hi
Much food for thought.
Totally forgot about the ERIC site. Thank you runmum
Thank you everyone else.
It's only a cup so it's the drink I need to wean him off rather than the teat. And yes I think I don't give him a big enough drink when he gets home from reception.
My 10 yo still has the odd accident every month so hopefully my youngest will get there. Just cheeses me off that they leak !
Yes lots to think about. Again thank you
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Post by daffin on Oct 9, 2014 8:16:54 GMT
Monkey Boy was potty trained at 2.5 but is still in nappies at night and they are still totally saturated every morning. He doesn't seem bothered by it at all.
We were advised that cutting down on liquids at night is no longer considered the right advice for children, as their ability to be dry and night depends on the brain producing a chemical that tells the body to concentrate the urine at night. With some children this starts age 2 with other at 12 and we shouldn't worry until he's 7, as that's the earliest a GP will refer your kid to a bed wetting clinic.
The practical issue remains!
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Post by cowgirl on Oct 9, 2014 8:54:37 GMT
Hi dafffin We had the same advice and similar with PMT and feeling bloated. My friend with her 7 yo was prescribed medicine. Same as my oldest has whilst we are away or he is on sleepovers. It's so infrequent I can manage him. My other friends boy is almost 14yo and has to take the medicine and similar was dry during the day at just over 2yo. Of course it didn't leak last night ! I am happy to reduce the liquid a bit anyway because he'd have me up & downstairs like a yo yo. See it's all about me  I am seriously considering trying the equivalent cloth nappy style but not sure how my LO would perceive this. www.bambinomio.com/shop/en/our-products/potty-training/potty-training-pants.html |
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Post by daffin on Oct 9, 2014 10:50:22 GMT
They look lovely. You could give it a go!
We're using Pampers Baby Dry size 6+ at the moment. They don't leak! (We used lovely Eco ones until he grew out of their largest size). MB has nearly grown our of them - then what? I couldn't spot pull-ups or anything else in a bigger size.
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Post by sockthing on Oct 9, 2014 11:37:12 GMT
Same issues here! We had lots of leaks till we found Huggies DryNites Age 4 - 7. We tried age 3 -5 but they were no good at all.
The above brand and age are the only ones that work for us. Kipper hardly drinks all day and then suddenly drinks lots at tea time. If we can get him to drink lots earlier in the day it helps, but he is very oppositional so it's hard to do.
You have my sympathy!
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Post by monkey on Oct 10, 2014 21:20:55 GMT
Hi Cowgirl
We have Libero products - you can buy them via the Tena website. I've found them much better than the brands you can buy in the supermarkets. They are about the same price but you have to buy in bulk.
I've also found that nappies leak less than pull ups but they're not so practical if you're training to encourage independence.
Have you tried speaking to your Health Visitor? In our area nappies / pull-ups can be provided free on the NHS if your child is 4 or over.
MMx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 9:47:51 GMT
As Monkey says, if your child has a diagnosis, you should be able to get them for free.
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Post by daffin on Oct 11, 2014 10:08:46 GMT
Hmmmm. Interesting. I'd not thought about being able get them for free!
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Post by leo on Oct 11, 2014 12:27:03 GMT
In my area they will only provide pull ups free if there is a recognised medical condition - and getting dla for attachment/behaviour doesn't count - and there is both day and night time wetting.
Had forgotten libero , we used them for a while and not sure why we stopped. Probably not organised enough to remember to order them !
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Post by twoplustwo on Oct 14, 2014 8:03:02 GMT
Our area only supply free nappies if a child is incontinent night AND day. Stig qualified for many years. Pull ups were useless. I think that's partly because of the purpose they are supposed to serve. They were brought out as a sort of halfway between nappies and undies. I was told that modern nappies kept children so dry that they had little incentive (ie discomfort) to want to stop using them. Pullups were designed to hold less and therefore feel wet to the child so as to encourage them to use the toilet rather than wet them. This seems to extend to the night time ones.
Stig used nappies at night for a long time - right up until there was a school sleepover (when he was about 8/9) and I decided to try the Rodger alarm at night. It worked for Stig - he was dry the second night with only a couple of 'accidents' since. The hormones that are supposed to keep him dry at night still haven't fully kicked in and he gets up most nights to use the loo.
In your position I'd abandon pullups at night for now and go with nappies or the libero people have suggested.
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Post by moo on Oct 28, 2014 6:18:21 GMT
Sorry late to this....
skweek has this problem... Dry during the day by 3 but still in pull ups at night.... Our routine is lots of drinks during the day but none after 4pm!!
Had leaks all the time until moved onto ' Dry Nites ' pull up pants.... I also think that with boys things move around when they are asleep.... Often if 'sticking up ' wee shoots up around the waistband area & leaks out easier that way....
Things are finally improving.... Was beginning to think he would have to move onto next size up  .... Such a contrast to his brother who was dry at 2 & 2 1/2 at night... & never looked back..... But like so many of you he is totally saturated... Obviously his brain is not hitting the stop urine production it's nighttime yet.....
Good Luck all... Do switch to 'dry Nites' they are brilliant....
xx. moo. Xx
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.... Such a contrast to his brother who was dry at 2 & 2 1/2 at night... & never looked back..... But like so many of you he is totally saturated... Obviously his brain is not hitting the stop urine production it's nighttime yet.....