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Post by knight on Oct 1, 2014 18:56:41 GMT
Hi
Out of interest (any primary infants teachers/TAs out there) ~ what is the ratio of learning kids do in December as compared to say October/November. 50/50? more? less?
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Post by serrakunda on Oct 1, 2014 19:31:19 GMT
Speaking as a mum December is chaos! If you are thinking about precious starting school before Christmas, I wouldn't , far better she have the time with you. Maybe a visit so she can she were she's going but I'd start her after the holidays.
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Post by knight on Oct 1, 2014 19:46:34 GMT
Yes Serrakunda that's what I've heard for so long so I'm looking for 'arguments' for her to leave her school in November, miss December altogether (and be with me) and start afresh in the NY (or as late as I can get away with!!) rather than move in the NY when she'll get even more behind. I've asked a girl at work to speak to her 2 TA friends; I've emailed the future Head (diplomatically of course) x
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Post by damson on Oct 1, 2014 20:51:44 GMT
That sounds very sensible to me. The longer she has to settle with you, the better.
And the run up to Christmas used to be horrendous in our home, as school and church, not to mention the whole of the commercial world, revved our children up.
And don't believe any hype about making friends she can play with in the holidays, it is very unlikely to happen.
How old is Precious?
x D
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Post by chotimonkey on Oct 1, 2014 21:38:12 GMT
I think not much is done, but you wouldn't be able to use this with schools as an excuse... Ithe slacking off is unofficial and no school leader would admit to any period of time in their school not being beneficial educationally. You probably would have to explain the benefits using stuff like bowlby/ Maslow/ Piaget to explain why kids can't learn/ make friends etc until they have created a safe base with you from which to step out from... Rendering the time in school before she was ready as ineffectual.
I think if you suggest that schools don't do anything in December you might put them on the defensive and make it harder to form a good working relationship with them
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Post by serrakunda on Oct 1, 2014 21:43:34 GMT
To be honest I wouldn't be worried about her getting behind at school. Whenever she moves there will disruption. Christmas provides a natural break. Simba moved home right at the start of Easter holidays, he missed a week at his old school for intros, we had two weeks together, he visited school in the first week of the Summer term, stayed for a morning, did a week of half days, and full time from week 3. So he had a short half term, half term week at home and then a full half term. However, I had a full year off work, so I had the whole summer off with him, which I think was incredibly important to us. If I hadn't had those 6 weeks I wouldn't have sent him to school so soon.
I'd focus more on arguing about building the bond and relationship rather than how much school she will miss. You can always do reading at home, she can help you write Christmas cards for writing practice, you can find ways to do number work. If you dont have the opportunity to bond then that will be more detrimental to her school life than missing a few weeks in December
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 7:08:28 GMT
Totally agree with the others the run up to Christmas is horrendous for adopted kids, very unsettling with all normal routines up in the air, with concert practise, carol services, parties etc, it
is a nightmare and so many children struggle with the change in their routine, not just adopted ones. Far better that she would spend quality time with you doing low key christmassy things, making home made decorations, low key christmas shopping, visit to Father Christmas etc. You bonding with her and helping her settle in is far more important than festive school activities. Maybe you could both attend the school natavity as guests, so she can see how much fun school will be without the stress of having to stand there and perform in front of a hall full of strangers/adults. A couple of short visits to meet her teacher and class would be far better, especially if everyone was saying "see you in the new year".
The irony of this is not lost on me. YDD has only been to school for 3 days since the 19th of May and I have been beating my head against a brick wall to get help to get her in there and no one seems bothered whether she gets an education or not, bar me, and we are talking secondary school, not infants!. School won't send any work home for her to do because "it might encourage her to stay off". School welfare officer washed her hands of us saying "I spent 4 hours round your house trying to persuade her to go in, what more can I do, I can't drag her there!" - I kid you not!!!! So when I hear you being pressured into making Precious attend it makes me seethe TBH. What's a few weeks off going to do to her education - Nada!!!!!!!
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Post by rosie on Oct 2, 2014 21:14:55 GMT
Totally agree with everyone. The run up to Christmas used to be horrendous for us. Loads of practices for Christmas plays, very little routine, children becoming more and more hyper. You would be much better having her at home and spending time together and building your relationship. People will say oh Christmas is such a lovely time you don't want her to miss out; but you will have lots of time in the future to do these things; better to have a calm low key time.
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Post by caledonia on Oct 3, 2014 12:43:39 GMT
hi
I wanted to do this with my two but SS would not move them in November / December as it was too close to Christmas and they felt that the children might associate Christmas with the move in the future. I thought this was rubbish, but having seen how disruptive my children found the move, I am glad it did not happen as Christmas would have been spoiled. Instead, introductions started on 7th January and they moved in on 16th January. We were able to adapt to each other and start talking about 'our' Christmas traditions in November and get everything in place.
It will be interesting to see what SS say.
I don't think missing school for all of January would make much difference in the short term as developing the relationship between DD and you would be far more important.
Good luck
Cale
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Post by knight on Oct 3, 2014 17:06:49 GMT
Yes Cale, I think that will be the end result really. I would have thought off school early Jan > half-term (or at least, doing half days by towards the end of 1/2 term). So, will see what CSW says. x
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