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Post by justbserene11 on Sept 30, 2014 9:07:41 GMT
Well DD is bright, but is also a summer born child. At the moment she is thriving at nursery (same place that she attended pre-school) and soon we will need to apply for a school place for next year.
My question is this, do we send her to reception in September 2015 when she will only just be four or do we push that she goes into reception the following year? How successful have others been doing this? How do I go about doing this (if of course this is what we decide to do)? If she were allowed to access reception in 2016 would I be able to still send her to nursery?
I live in Hertfordshire and Dd has been with us for two years now.
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Post by lovelybee on Sept 30, 2014 10:03:37 GMT
We are in a similar situation. Littlebee has August birthday, home 2 years and due to start reception next year.
We made the decision not to alter her routine and kept her in a small private nursery instead of a school nursery with good child:carer ratios so school is going to be a massive step for her. Nursery have also been very good with managing Littlebees behaviour, doing lots if 1:1 and positive praise.
I know others have struggled to keep their kids back to start a year later and I think it will be down to your individual LA and school.
Littlebee has made many friends at nursery so my feeling is to send her next year so she moves with friends but will see how the next few months go and speak to the school we are hoping to send her to.
LB x
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Post by flutterby on Sept 30, 2014 12:22:38 GMT
If you feel your little one is too young to cope, she probably is. There is no legal requirement for her to start full-time education until she is 5. I think I may have mentioned this somewhere before, but what we did is officially let my daughter start school, so she wouldn't miss out on making friends, but we sent her part-time. And that meant some days at home, some half-days and I monitored constantly. Whenever I felt things were getting on top of her, I took her out for a little while. IMO, they are just too young having only just turned four. Trouble is, if you manage to keep your little one at home/nursery for another year, schools will just put them into year one. Your LO would then have missed all of reception, be the new kid on top of that and with a whole year to catch up with. So make the most of that legal loop hole if you have the flexibility to stay at home whenever needed.
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Post by daffin on Sept 30, 2014 13:06:32 GMT
I have heard that as adopted summer born kids you can lobby to have them kept back a year - so they can still do Reception. I don't know what the success rates are, though.
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Post by chotimonkey on Sept 30, 2014 20:49:13 GMT
It's worth a try... Govt changes demand that now less time is spent on preparation for learning through play and that formal learning starts almost immediately... Soooo wrong!! I think this country has entrance to education all wrong
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Post by ham on Sept 30, 2014 21:12:29 GMT
I tried it in Herts years ago but they were not having it. believe they are still very anti. I invested my time in getting my dd a statement instead.
good luck with what ever you decide.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 4:25:36 GMT
For what it's worth, my two DD's were both summer babies and I started both of them in nursery just turned 3, starting reception just turned 4 and if I had my time again inwould not do so again.
Adopted children need extra time at home and extra time to adjust to being away from mum before having to start formal education. They are usually very young for their age and take longer to catch up with their peers, so starting them too soon is a bad idea IMO. Once they start school though it is almost impossible to have them put back a year, which is why I now wish i had waited a year before starting mine.
EDD in particular is still very young for her age and it is often commented on by teachers and professionals. At 14 she is really more like an 11/12 year old and I often feel she would be better being back a year, but once in the system, you can't really back class her or she would have to leave all her friends behind and the stigma of that which is why I say you are not holding your child back by starting them later, just giving them more time to be a child and to catch up with their peers.
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Post by moo on Oct 1, 2014 4:44:43 GMT
Boys old school were very tricky & I now know opinionated ( & wrong !?!?)
I would insist on part time in reception.... Be sure to ask what is done on which days... Ie what the curriculum & programme is.... Old school was fanatical about church services so this term was a nightmare relentless practice for harvest festival... Then immediately that was over the practise for nativity songs started with avengeance.... The reason I mention it is that both my 2 esp at 4 really struggled with lack of routine & hanging about endlessly practising songs....
If your chosen school is realistic they will realise these problems are so very real for our children... If you plan for school hours to replace lo current nursery arrangements I don't think you will go far wrong.... Hth xxx thinking of you it is such an awfully large step for our l/o & us ?!?!
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by flutterby on Oct 1, 2014 7:00:43 GMT
Oh, how I hate people in power with no idea of what childhood is like. Were they never children themselves? Born with their ties round their necks? (Some good use for those springs to mind)
Play equals learning, that is how children learn naturally. Take that away and replace it with some man-made concept that suits no-one other than grown-ups. Just so crazy. They are still so small. Why take those vital years away from them, I just do not get it. And that goes for every child in society. Formal learning should not start until they are at least 6. Well, that is my opinion anyway. There are plenty of good examples from other European countries with very good outcomes.
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Post by gilreth on Oct 1, 2014 7:16:01 GMT
Similar situation here in that Sqk is a July birthday. However, we made the decision to send him to school nursery this year as he was ready. My SIL was a foundation stage teacher for a number of years (in deprived part of Liverpool so deals with kids from our childrens background). She said yes he was emotionally young but otherwise ready - and when I had a meeting with his teacher on Friday she told me they had been surprised. They had expected him to be behind (had whole-staff training recently from PAS last year due to an adopted child in reception), but, in fact, in many areas he is ahead of expected. He for now seems to be doing well and they are dealing with his younger behaviours well and listening to us for now. Sqk seems to be making friends with the other young boy (August) in his class - who happens to live not far from us at all - so I am hopeful. We are applying for school place for him next September. I have to agree though if you feel your child is too young then they probably are - DH & I donidn't have that feeling with Sqk. DfE advice for summer-born admissions: www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/308008/Summer_born_advice_amended_May_14.pdfSo worth trying at least...
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Post by justbserene11 on Oct 3, 2014 18:13:41 GMT
Thank you to all the responded. Lots of food for thought.
If I do decide to let her go into reception with her peers I think the idea of going part time is a good one. However, as it is relatively early in regards to the term, I think I still have time to really assess what the best course of action will be.
Thanks again
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