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Post by larsti on May 21, 2014 15:58:01 GMT
I have come to the conclusion that being Dash's mother could LITERALLY be a full-time job, if I let it. There is plenty of stuff I could or 'should' be doing. Bought the Joy Rees Lifestory book but have not yet got around to redoing Dash's Life Story book. Most of it is about time with foster carers anyway as BF didn't supply any photos (well one photo ). Got the forms for DLA and still have not done them. We are okay financially but even so, its another thing I 'should' have done. Then there's the training and reading (including reading and posting on here!) Anyway, I am sure many of you feel the same! Self care should be part of our job specification too
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Post by larsti on May 21, 2014 16:02:56 GMT
Oh and contact...direct and indirect.
Medical appointments and filling in related questionnaires.
Not that onerous but it all mounts up.
The time we save on school meetings, parents evenings etc we use for home education!
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Post by serrakunda on May 21, 2014 16:34:19 GMT
I agree ! I coped so much better before I went back to work, I had all the housework, shopping done before Simba got home from school, I could devote the whole evening and weekends to him, now I just can't and he's noticed it. I used to cook properly every evening, I lose my patience much more quickly with him. I have less time and energy just to play. I know that most working birth parents probably feel the same, but I think our kids need and deserve so much more from us. If I had the finances I would give up work for another year, he will be in secondary school, there will be more after school activities for him, so I can do a full working day, he will go up from cubs to scouts and I will get more me time
Dream on
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Post by ham on May 21, 2014 17:43:04 GMT
Which is why I think benefits/adoption allowance should continue beyond 18 for those who cannot return to work as they still have to care for their young adults. It is more than a full time job.
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Post by janpan on May 21, 2014 17:49:30 GMT
I absolutely found it a full time job when my two were at primary school. Quite apart from anything else, I was constantly being called into school (nothing changes there then!).
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Post by giggles on May 21, 2014 18:06:56 GMT
I'm a SAHM, a SW very involved in the world of adoption said to me today 'oh Giggles, you don't work do you'. I soon put her right!!
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Post by wibbley on May 21, 2014 18:22:39 GMT
It is. There is no way I could work - HE or not.
I am also quite sure I will be caring for one of mine full time well into adulthood too.
We recently had our AO re-assessed & were told we were due 39p pw. Not much when you compare it to a wage eh?
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Post by donatella on May 21, 2014 18:26:46 GMT
Too true. Last year was spent in a haze of appointments to get dd and DS assessed and diagnosed. Similar this year getting DS statemented. Next up - school transition for him and working on getting her more support in school. I am now officially on first name terms with both ed psychs!!
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Post by larsti on May 21, 2014 20:28:51 GMT
I always found the school day was quite short. You can't really fit much in between 9ish and 3ish. Even making phone calls when the person you want to speak to is unavailable seems to take a lot of time.
Serrakunda don't worry about cooking 'properly'! I must admit cooking is not one of my strong points. Chicken thighs and a jar of tikka masala tonight. And I must say I am not always the most patient person but Dash is learning about sorry and forgiveness. Only tonight I was cross with DH about a minor thing and Dash said 'you need to say sorry Mum'!! Working or not, the time until Simba is at secondary will fly by and you can have a bit more time and energy.
Respect (as they say!) to Mums with more than one adopted child
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Post by larsti on May 21, 2014 20:31:24 GMT
and Dad's of course.
DH could do with a rest when he gets home, or time to work in peace. Sometimes he has to get fish and chips on way home and put Dash to bed because, as Dash would say, my batteries have run out.
Agree about post 18 allowances too Ham.
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Post by bop on May 21, 2014 21:00:20 GMT
Working or not, the time until Simba is at secondary will fly by and you can have a bit more time and energy. Sadly things have got harder for us at secondary school as the demands and expectations are higher and the deficits more apparent - so more phone calls and meetings....
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Post by larsti on May 21, 2014 22:56:59 GMT
Sorry to hear that bop (especially since I had hoped that *maybe* a good special secondary school might be the answer to all our prayers ) I was responding to Serrakunda's post about after school activities and scouts (don't know how to quote though!) Larsti x
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Post by serrakunda on May 21, 2014 23:07:19 GMT
I'm keeping fingers crossed Bop. All the more reason to get the right choice school. Have made some appointments to visit schools over the next few weeks Isnt chicken thighs and a can of sauce cooking then Larsti Don't know if it's the same for others but there are just some things that I really feel the need to do for Simba, because of his history, one thing is proper food because he didn't get it for four years, we never have takeaways, he has McDonald's for a holiday treat, he gets pizza once a week, and I'm not averse to sausages and beans for a quick meal on days I'm working but I try hard to give him good food, the other thing is making sure he is warm, particularly at night, because often he didn't have a cot or bed, I still re-tuck him in three or four times a night, just to make sure
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Post by moo on May 22, 2014 5:53:29 GMT
I also feel like you serrakunda....
I seem to be constantly thinking 'yeh but we have to do it this way coz they never had & did that when little ' I have the need to be sure that they do it now in spades to make up!?? I sometimes think that is my hang up!?!? :- doesn't go away tho?!?
Hugs xx
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by ham on May 22, 2014 6:21:27 GMT
Serrakunda how about a sleeping bag for simba.
Just thinking of the minor things I still do for my young adults. Dd still needs to put to bed Ds2 and dd need accompany to appointments- just normal gp/dentist ones let alone their specialists one,forms for ESA/DLA to be filled in,having to make calls for them,arguing with said person that my adults cannot make phone call and will have to speak to me.
Ensure ds2 washes cleans teeth eats and drinks.help dd when she has period(thankfully not many ) Collecting sorting meds last week spent 1/2 hour in chemist sorting it out. Before meeting their physical/mental health needs.still need to be therapeutic.putting myself between dd and ds2 when they kick off.
Even ds1 who does not live at home needs help to get by.
I rarely have to do any of this for my youngest and have not done so for about 3 years .
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Post by pluto on May 22, 2014 7:02:52 GMT
I see it as a job, and that you have to check everything they do, and that every match needs to be locked up, and that rooms need to be locked, and that nothing ever is genuine, the endles controle battles, manipulation. This is nothing like a normal situation, can not be without supervision and if he is something goes terrible wrong, the endless causing of damage, can not play with other children unsupervised. And always the outcomes of those kids in the back of your head, the ones who are 'too good' for disability services yet they have no clue how the world turns around. (IQ's between 70 and 85, often caused by alcohol or other poisons)) In fact if you treat them 'like normal' with loads of emotional involvement they can not deal with that and behaviours piral out of controle. So endless being the 'neutral' parent, sorrry that is more than a full time job. We give those kids a chance to succeed, always take care of yourself first! As you're in it for te long run.
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Post by ham on May 22, 2014 7:44:08 GMT
Well said pluto
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 13:14:10 GMT
And don't forget, SS know we are a hell of a lot cheaper than FC (no offence to FC's intended)
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Post by sockthing on May 22, 2014 14:27:14 GMT
I was glad to read your post, Larsti, as I feel like this. I often look at my friends with two or even three children and wonder how they manage to look after themselves so well, and be so organised, and have a life outside parenting, when I have only one small boy and yet I am constantly exhausted and often feel very drained. I have times where I feel very inadequate next to them and my confidence take a dive and I wonder why I find it so all consuming...is it me and my style if parenting, or is my child and his style of needs? Or both?
I don't even work which makes me feel doubly lame. I struggle to find the energy to pluck my eyebrows and we rarely even manage to watch a film because we are so tired in the evenings.
I have pondered on this so much, and realise that one of the biggest factors for me is Kipper's neediness , needing almost 100% attention, finding it difficult to play alone, and he would certainly never play upstairs alone while I got on with stuff downstairs. He only does 2 mornings a week at nursery due to his attachment style and separation anxieties, and the rest of the time I have to entertain him, and deal with his sensory stuff, his emotional roller coaster and his brain-draining desire for 1:1 attention...and his big busy brain!!
And then, I remember too, that in the last 3 weeks I have seen OT, PASW, meetings at nursery about school transition, meeting at school about transition, had a frustrating letter from the paediatrician that needs addressing, and an almost equally frustrating review from nursery which raises more questions...and CAMHS next week. Not to mention sleep diariy and sensory diet to think about.
He has started asking for a baby brother recently....I can't imagine that at all!!!!!!!
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Post by esty (archive) on May 22, 2014 14:59:51 GMT
We have just started at 10, two years in, expecting him to play upstairs for 30 mins by himself. We had refusal and melt downs the first weeks but now is doing it. This wouldn't work with your kipper who has a lot of different things going on and even though LM has attachment issues he is able to verbalise and rationalise some of what we discuss and why. He couldn't have done it before now without thinking it was because I didn't want him! Now he's going with as a 10 year old most 10 year olds can occupy themselves for 30 minutes and its an important life skill. He gets loads of praise for doing it.
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Post by esty (archive) on May 22, 2014 15:00:50 GMT
He has started asking for a baby brother recently....I can't imagine that at all!!!!!!! Love this Sockthing!!!
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Post by esty (archive) on May 22, 2014 15:09:25 GMT
In fact LM has just walked down with a lego polling station!!!!! Made during his 30 mins of confinement sorry occupying himself!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 15:20:35 GMT
I think this is what prospective adopters don't realise at the begining of their journey and they need to read posts like this to at least think that maybe they won't be able to return to work after their adoption leave is up. This is the problem, until you are living the life and have your child at home, you have no idea just how needy your child may be. A lot of our children simply cannot cope with before and after school clubs or childminders or whatever and then you have to have a re-think on what to do. This is why all adopted children should come with an allowance to allow one parent to remain at home or at least to work part time so that they are there when their child needs them. This is what the Government doesn't realise that most adopted kids have additional needs to make up for their lack of secure early care and sometimes this need doesn't really ever go away. This is what we adopters are trying to get across to Sir Martin Narey, that we adopters need help and this help should be lined up and ready to go before the AO goes through and if it isn't needed good - it can go to the next adopter who does need it, instead of leaving us all to flounder, wearing ourselves out fighting a system that is supposed to help us and then blames us for our children's behaviours for years before finally admitting that actually the AP's were right all along. Adoption is not for the faint hearted - it is a lifelong comittment and an uphill struggle and Government targets to speed through prospectives as quickly as possible is just storing up trouble for the future, that's what they don't get!
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