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Post by corkwing on Apr 9, 2014 14:44:26 GMT
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Post by damson on Apr 9, 2014 14:53:55 GMT
Thanks, happy hols reading.
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Post by moo on Apr 9, 2014 17:55:30 GMT
Thanx for the link Corkwing....
Think I will have to wait for summer term to start!!!
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by justbserene11 on Apr 9, 2014 19:52:56 GMT
Well I have just skimmed the surface, but WOW! Will be helpful in a good way I think. Thanks corkwing
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Post by corkwing on Apr 10, 2014 7:08:35 GMT
I went straight to the recommendations. To me, they seemed to reflect exactly what I've heard adopters say for years. I was so touched that it seemed that someone had heard and understood. I just hope that the government do, too.
Corkwing
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Post by donatella on Apr 10, 2014 11:04:05 GMT
Let's hope the focus is on the reality rather than the fact that disruptions are fewer than originally expected. Can't help thinking someone somewhere will try to put a positive spin on the less important bit. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by corkwing on Apr 11, 2014 10:13:06 GMT
"You might like to know that Julie Selwyn (project lead) and an adoptive parent will be talking about the research on Radio 4 iPM tomorrow (Saturday) at 5.30pm"
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Post by rlmjam on Apr 11, 2014 19:55:16 GMT
A particular focus is the issue of child to parent violence(CPV). It is good that this is being recognised as according to the report, it is CPV that is the reason for 80% of disruptions. It also recognises that the disruption rate is lower than expected mainly because if the dedication of adoptive parents who will try as hard as possible to stick with their children. Just shows how bad it has to get for a disruption to occur.
AUK are putting a big focus on CPV and teenage issues and I believe they intend to push this to the top of the agenda with government. Too late for some I know but if it helps families in the future, that can only be a good thing.
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Post by peartree on Apr 12, 2014 7:36:17 GMT
We were in this report and I spent a fair bit of time hugging mr pt reading this together :-)
We are so proud to have been part of such a bit of research
It's interesting how the adoption managers think their service is great and the adopters all think they were dire!
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Post by jellies on Apr 12, 2014 12:06:05 GMT
Well done to all those that took part (me included). I really think that the gov and the DfE themselves have been `rocked` by the bad news element of this research and therefore are taking their time about giving their comments on it - also, it really causes them a problem doesn't it ? How to be upbeat about the reforms without having put enough thought about `how` long term support can and should be provided. Not that they are not working on that tbf - the adoption reform groups are looking at personal budgets for therapy - but tbh , I still think they have been thinking in terms of the early yrs of placement support rather than what is clearly needed - which many of us have known about for time immemorial, but that have shocked them to the core.
madrid - I have pm'd you on the AUK boards (oops sorry - forum gggrrrhhh)
Jellies
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Post by jellies on Apr 12, 2014 12:14:10 GMT
Also, don't forget Prof Selwyn on R4 today at 5.30pm - she tweeted to say how cross she was with herslf for not saying tht camhs teams are carp (or words to that effect).
For those that find the 300 odd pages to difficult to read , if you go into the DfE website, the summary is titled `research brief`. Only about 20 pages.
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Post by shadow on Apr 12, 2014 12:56:40 GMT
it was a pity those of us in Scotland were not included - I did the online thing but see it was discounted - maybe they feel services in Scotland are too good!!!!!!!!
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Post by peartree on Apr 12, 2014 13:01:25 GMT
Think Scotland need their own study because they've got no pas
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Post by jellies on Apr 12, 2014 15:25:10 GMT
Also that this was DfE funded research. As we sadly know Scotland/ N Ireland and Wales deal with their own education/health and social .care provision. Not good for uk wide equality for the care of adopted children or families - Very sad face thingy .
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Post by shadow on Apr 12, 2014 17:16:53 GMT
have read the report - recognise some of your harrowing stories - must have been really difficult reading for you folks - and even more difficult taking part - am glad you are feeling proud of yourselves
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Post by rlmjam on Apr 12, 2014 21:50:08 GMT
We noticed the bit about LA managers having a high opinion of themselves. Also interesting to note that one of the managers justified treating all adopters who cry out for help as potential abusers because there have been a couple over the years.
We were slightly disappointed that none if the recommendations included better understanding by SW's of attachment and the problems it causes. Already sounds like the DfE are going g to sweep it under the carpet. So only 3% of adoptions disrupt. The report quite clearly states that 25% of adoptions run into problems in the teenage years and that LA's generally struggle to cope with this. Also the report is clear that it is the adoptive parents who prevent more from disrupting. Those who do have to disrupt do so as a last resort.
We are being interviewed for the welsh one after Easter. Smaller sample for this one (20 families) but I doubt if the conclusions will be any different. I do suspect that it will be taken more seriously in wales .
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Post by nzhb on Apr 13, 2014 1:05:13 GMT
We have an MDT in a few weeks - CAMHS/health & education . Have posted the link to all involved in the meeting We feel we are mirrored in many ways in this report & will now have evidence to back us up.
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Post by bagpuss72 on Apr 13, 2014 9:04:29 GMT
Hope it helps you nzhb.
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