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Post by mudlark on Apr 6, 2014 10:05:27 GMT
Lapwing has been going once a week to reception class as part of phasing her into school, I have been staying with her and the teacher appointed a little girl to show her round, Lapwing really liked the little girl and so was delighted a few weeks ago when little girl and her mummy were at our local church. I went up to the mummy and said how helpful her little girl had been, the mummy was ever so friendly and it turned out we lived at the opposite end of the same road.
A couple of weeks later the mummy and the little girl where at church again, this time she said '''would love to chat but we're in a hurry" I thought nothing of it. However as the weeks have passed the mummy now says a brisk hello and moves quickly on when she sees us. The mummy is friends with the deputy head at Lapwings school and I think she has found out that Lapwing was a looked after child and has decided she does not want 'get to know us'.
I am saddened and angry.Today at church after we all stood there contemplating Christian values, she said with fleeting eye contact and a brush off wave...'see you soon' and ushered her little girl quickly past.
I felt like crying, I also felt like confronting her....I did neither. I am also cross that teachers might be discussing things which should be confidential with other parents.
Should I instruct the school to keep our families situation private...or should I just let it go, as people are gossips and the 'news' about Lapwing and Peewit will spread anyway...but honestly, I am disgusted with the lack of generosity of heart and minds..............
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Post by sooz on Apr 6, 2014 10:56:53 GMT
I think that if indeed the case is that this woman has decided that she doesn't want to know you because of your circumstances, then she wouldn't really be someone you'd like to know anyway, right? You could look on it that it's better to know now rather than have struck up a friendship and then discovered her true nature.
Maybe if you could turn it around as you not wanting to know her or wanting your children around someone so ignorant it might help your feelings. It's her issue, not yours. Surround yourself with supportive and caring people and accept she has a long journey ahead of her to truly embrace Christian values.
Of course it may not have anything to do with your children being looked after, in which case she may just have other issues, which again are her issues, not yours.
I think the reason it's so hurtful though is because we want our beautiful children to have friends and be accepted wholeheartedly into the community by caring people, you just have to know your audience.
Sending hugs xx
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Post by cowgirl on Apr 6, 2014 11:21:18 GMT
Hi mud lark
I can feel the anger bubbling away in me reading your post and the sadness too
I agree with sooz obviously not a person you'd want to be associated with. If she she has been swayed by her preconceptions better that you know now
However I would ask the direct question at school that a situation has arisen and you strongly suspect that private information about your family has been leaked. They will deny it of course but perhaps they can explain & demonstrate to you how it couldn't happen in the future.
Hugs
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Post by moo on Apr 6, 2014 12:38:53 GMT
So sad for you.... Can really feel your upset for lapwing....
Please make certain that school have been gossiping & that it is just not something that has happened in school to make the other child jealous or indifferent to lapwing.... ( other kids can sometimes be unkind to our wonderful children for who knows what reasons )
But if school have been gossiping I would threaten all sorts!!! Deffo a letter to the chair of board of governors to complain... Even if you have not forbidden certain staff to know about it ( on a need to know only basis ) it is still NOT ever for general consumption.... I think if you reported it to SS for example they would insist on a black mark for non confidentiality be placed on heads report this is serious.... You could even write a letter to ofsted about it.... Now that will be the thing that hurts the school most....
Meantime hugs for you & lapwing.... Such sad feelings for you all.....
As sooz says she really isn't someone you would like as a friend really ( after this anyway )...
Hang in xxx
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by justbserene11 on Apr 6, 2014 14:00:37 GMT
I am so sorry that you have had to encounter this.
Like the others have said, it just proves that this women is not WORTHY of being part of your families life!
If the staff at the school have been discussing your children with other parents then this is a breach of confidentiality.
Like Moo has advised if this has been the case then write a letter to the HT and the chair of governors (as they are obliged to respond).
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Post by pluto on Apr 6, 2014 15:51:21 GMT
Let it go, let them gossip. It is sad but this will often only get worse when the children get older and their problems more obvious. I have 2 at home with no friends, and do you know what I get annoyed with?
There is a village 12km away from where we live, my oldest was in school there until the school closed down and everyone went to one even further away. Now my oldest loves to cycle those 12 km alone and will call at houses of children who are in his class, even teachers. Sometimes they call me to ask or it is alright he is so far away, but nobody ever has offered him a drink! Even in the summer when it is warm, not even a glass of water, they know him 5 years, their children are in his class, I think that is not nice.
I know some people might not be comfortable interacting with him, he just says his own autistic things, but he is never agressive, always friendly towards others, etc. Has it to do with his autism? The adoption? I have no idea, all I know is that my youngest gets bullied in the bus, he is the only dark child. Is it discrimination? His weird behaviours? His poor social skills?
I have no idea, can not answer the question, those children have often poor social skills, they are the ducks in the pack of chickens. There is something 'weird' with those children and others 'sniff' that out, it is the neglect they suffered what makes life so difficult for them.. It lead to exclusion in many cases.
My youngest would also be very happy with a new 'friend', but than he is too much in their face and hated after some time. Maybe your girl is too enthousiastic and overwhelming/posessive towards the other girl. Very innocent but it is too much for the new 'friend', poor social skills, not knowing when to back off.
Try to ignore and give your child positive experiences in something they can succeed in.
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Post by nomoretears on Apr 6, 2014 18:58:42 GMT
I think I tend to agree with Moo - please, please make sure that this isn't just you assuming school has been gossiping. I don't mean this as a criticism of you.
I recently cared for a child who was being ignored by all his school friends and their parents.
Like you, I assumed it was because he a LAC and therefore "different".
Turns out he'd been badly bullying several of his school friends.
Of course the parents thought badly of him - I wasn't impressed with him myself when I found out.
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Post by sivier on Apr 6, 2014 21:15:43 GMT
It's rotten when this happens. I'd agree that it's a good idea to not assume too much when you talk to the school, but do bring it up (I thought cowgirls idea on how you might phrase this was really helpful).
It does occasionally happen that people 'drop' you once they know your child is adopted. Most people I've told have been great - supportive and discreet. But one woman, who had been very friendly and very into our burgeoning friendship, just went cold when she found out about AD. Polite, 'smiley', but clearly but no longer interested. I was quite upset but then thought 'your loss, sunshine' (actually my wording may have been a little stronger than that...)
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Post by corkwing on Apr 7, 2014 7:15:40 GMT
Hi, Mudlark - To me, it seems like there are a couple of assumptions here. Firstly that she's being unfriendly because she knows your daughter is adopted, and secondly that the information came from school. Neither of those may be correct. As nomoretears has said, there may be other reasons why she's not being friendly. And the news that your daughter is adopted could well have come from church, or indeed other sources. To me, it seems like there are a few options: - say to the other mummy that it seems like she's avoiding you and ask why (and you may still not get an honest answer);
- ask some mutual friend if they can find out - although them reporting back to you could be construed as gossip;
- accept that she doesn't want to be friends, forgive her and move on.
All the best, Corkwing
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Post by damson on Apr 7, 2014 18:57:42 GMT
Dear Lapwing, l was very sad when my AD just didn't make friends at school. I kept hoping things would work. I kept inviting other children round. l cultivated possible connections, ran parties, helped on school trips. I tried sleepovers. Where I liked the parents, I was sad when the kids didn't gel. Underneath, there was the basic reality of attachment problems and effectively delayed emotional development. My AD has friends now, but it has been a long and painful path. It's particularly hard when the child lives nearby. This was one of the hardest things for me on Planet Adoption. Hang on in there. Invite children round, but one at a time, and do things together. Don't hope they will play nicely together without you. Keep it short and pleasant, and pass child back to parent promptly. Here's hoping a nice little girl will appear soon. D
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Post by mudlark on Apr 7, 2014 21:42:08 GMT
oh thank you everyone...I am especially sensitive at the moment as tomorrow is lapwings birthday and the little one has no friends.
The little girl I refereed to LIKES lapwing, it is her mummy that is discouraging the friendship.
Yes I will move on from this, and I wont jump to conclusions, I will take it slowly.
Happy Birthday lapwing, she is a little cheered up as I have promised her beloved dragon (a puppet) will be coming to birthday tea..
Next year will be better I hope...
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Post by leo on Apr 8, 2014 20:43:32 GMT
Happy Birthday to Lapwing!
I feel for you Mudlark. I have the same; my boys have no friends either. We have a teaddy bears picnic instead and they love that - especially as I take my teddy bear too!
Hope you have a lovely day.
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Post by mudlark on Apr 8, 2014 21:32:16 GMT
Thank you Leo....we too had a soft toy party...it was the highlight of an otherwise very sad day.
Lapwing really hurt Peewit this morning..i know she was suffering but I was very cross she hurt peewit so badly.
But by the end of what seemed a very long day when all the soft toys came to join her for her birthday tea she seemed much happier.
She wore the Brave outfit... she's never seen the Disney film. But I bought it for her because she is the bravest person I know...
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Post by moo on Apr 9, 2014 6:26:59 GMT
Great point toko....
my 2 love remembering stuff we did last year or 'when they were babies' they always seem to have such vivid memories & luckily it Always revolves around the amusing...
I am sure next year it will be soo different that you will struggle to remember this!!!
Hugs for you xx
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by mudlark on Apr 9, 2014 20:57:21 GMT
yes toko I agree, I am trying to build up those memory banks...today was better 5 hours on the beach with picnic and building sand castles .. still no friends and still the social high point chatting to brockelfoot her beloved irish dragon puppet that mummy, however tired or sad or fed up she feels, has to be the most charming and reassuring dragon who can spin a tale , ruffle her hair and make her feel special in a way that only brocklefoot can..
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