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CAF ???
Mar 22, 2014 6:34:07 GMT
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Post by bigredbus on Mar 22, 2014 6:34:07 GMT
Is a CAF form for a named child or named family?
ie 2 kids both with complex needs. Would they do one caf or 2 cafs? Some professionals overlap, but some separate. 2 schools.
need help, not endless meetings / form filling. Trying to work out what would help.
both have individual medical / educational needs, but obviously overlap at home.
any experiences positive or negative with a caf as a way forward to accessing help?
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Post by moo on Mar 22, 2014 7:04:30 GMT
Sorry can't help I'm afraid.... Someone wiser will be along soon I am sure....
Hope you get your answer....
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 7:14:50 GMT
Sorry no idea - Never heard of a CAF form.
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Mar 22, 2014 7:26:13 GMT
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Post by bigredbus on Mar 22, 2014 7:26:13 GMT
Common assessment framework.
not an adoption thing but a multiagency assessment that's meant to bring all professionals to the same place. Team around the child and all needs / support organized by joined up working and thinking.
that's the theory but I don't know whether in practice it would help in our situation. 2 kids, different needs.
scared to ask for postadoption assessment of need. One is adopted, one isn't.
feel we fall in the cracks. Feels there isn't a clear place to go for co-ordinated support, that we need.
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CAF ???
Mar 22, 2014 8:13:13 GMT
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Post by milly on Mar 22, 2014 8:13:13 GMT
I don't know the answer to your question re 2 children, but dd1's then senco did one for her last year.
She did take evidence from us and CAMHS but otherwise it was based on her school records and some tests / observations she had done.
It didn't take that long. She used it to apply for a statement which was turned down (we knew it would be, dd doesn't meet the criteria).
Since then the only benefit has been some follow up visits from the ed psychologist which wouldn't normally happen - but we have had issues over the school not following the ed psych's advice.
It does mean the LA keep a watch on things for dd, I think.
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CAF ???
Mar 22, 2014 8:14:35 GMT
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Post by milly on Mar 22, 2014 8:14:35 GMT
Ps we don't have issues with dd at home though, that we need support with.
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CAF ???
Mar 22, 2014 8:26:54 GMT
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Post by wibbley on Mar 22, 2014 8:26:54 GMT
I was told a CAF is now a TAF - team around the family.
I have no idea on practice how this works though.
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CAF ???
Mar 22, 2014 8:40:22 GMT
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Post by esty (archive) on Mar 22, 2014 8:40:22 GMT
The idea around the CAF is brilliant in theory.
All people involved in child/young person sit around table that includes parent(s) and highlight areas of concern and formulate a plan. One of the people (not the parent) is responsible for co-ordinating information, plans and outcomes. If an on board bunch of profs and overlapping then there is no reason why same team couldn't do both children one after other and then key person co ordinate it all.
I have planning meetings for my eldest son which includes SW, OT, respite and school. They were held 6 weekly when none of them we're managing him. Now down to termly.
I was instrumental in pushing for them to happen as I felt they were failing in their duty of care for him. All so much better now and profs really valuing the coordinating of work and information.
Please pm if you want any more info.
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Post by littlemisscheerful on Mar 22, 2014 10:11:12 GMT
I was persuaded by school some years ago to allow them to set up a CAF.
School thought that it would get me access to some additional help - but same old, same old. The support workers (can't remember which team they were) but seemed to be used to working with dysfunctional families.
Don't think anything useful came out of it for us - but I agree that in practice it sounds like a good idea.
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Post by swimchic on Mar 22, 2014 12:31:12 GMT
:)I know about them...ask away!
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Mar 23, 2014 7:20:57 GMT
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Post by bigredbus on Mar 23, 2014 7:20:57 GMT
Swimchic, is it one caf per family? Or one per child?
who initiates it?
where would it be held if 2 schools involved etc?
how long a process is it?
sorry so many questions.
Theory sounds good, but previous experience of multiagency meeting is everyone saying "not from my budget".
Much talking about how complex things are but help / action lacking.
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Post by damson on Mar 23, 2014 11:45:46 GMT
In theory, I think you could get one TAF that covered both your children, but I agree, mostly what is happening is CAFs, and mostly they are school based for children of 9 and 13. (You can get CAFs run by other professionals, but very often it is schools.) You are likely to get a CAF for each of your girls, because the school is likely to be the lead in each one. Now, whether they are productive... That is largely a function of who meets, how often the actually meet (as opposed to when they are supposed to meet) and whether the lead professional chases up actions in between times. In theory, it should be a gateway to services, but they are usually the sort that deals with struggling families, either dysfunctional parents or children with special needs, or a and b. I don't think they are likely to produce things focussed on the needs of adoptive children or children in care. A CAF is the level below social services referral/ assessment. If a social worker is involved, they are not the lead professional. So... where does this leave you? Hmm. It all depends who comes to the first meeting, and what things they can do to help. As time goes by, the size of the meeting may well shrink as agencies slither away, saying that they have done their bit. My guess is that you have to accept, or you are not showing willing. The CAFs may produce genuinely helpful things within school. And just maybe, someone who could take your girls out and about, one at a time, so you can have a breather. Worth a try Just keep a sharp eye on what concrete things are offered, and make sure you take notes.
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Post by twoplustwo on Mar 24, 2014 12:01:41 GMT
In our area we have one CAF per child. It is supposed to refelect the specific needs of an individual child therefore each child needs their own.
We had to complete two. However we completed both at the same time and there was a lot of overlap - inevitably. I understand entirely why you'd not want to have to fill two in - it isn't a short form. Another hoop to jump through to try and access help :-(
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