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Post by mudlark on Dec 11, 2013 20:37:55 GMT
Apologies for starting yet another new thread but I need some advice. Lapwing aged 4 has asked several times...will I die...followed by.. I don't want to die? This 20 minutes before bedtime. Her foster careres mother died so she has some knowledge of death. My instinct was to say ..No you wont die... I don't want a little girl worrying abut death as she goes to sleep. She said ...why wont I die... I said..Little girls don't. die.
My question is...how have others dealt with this question..what have you said...we weren't expecting this question so early on in the placement. I don't want to lie to her but equally I do not want her worrying about death..she also asked will I die ...
She has also asked about God and Jesus.. Mr Mudlark and I have decided that we will tell both Lapwing and Peewit that there is a God and maybe the easiest thing is to follow through on this and start talking Heaven and prayer....we are not practising Christians but do have faith and we are abit unprepared for this...any thoughts or experience ?
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Post by smileycat on Dec 11, 2013 21:06:26 GMT
Ah Mudlark.... my Mum died several hers before DD was placed. DD knows this as we visit DH's Mother so the question is where is your Mummy. I tell her she is in Heaven with God and Jesus. She asks why. So I say there was a problem with her body that the Dr's couldn't fix. Will you die Mummy, no darling not for a long time. I don't have the problem my Mummy did and nor do you. I told her/tell her that she doesn't need to worry and that I am not worried. I remind her that Great Nanny and Great Grandma are in their 90's. She asks how old will I be when I die so I say maybe I will be 200, then I said how old I am. I say all of this smiling and calmly. And yes, it's always before bed. my answers seem to be what she wants and then she always moves on to something silly in seconds e.g can I watch Charlie and Lola tomorrow?!!!!!
I do have strong faith and belief In God. So I am happy and comfortable telling her what I believe. I also feel that it's important to be as honest as you can be. My Mum died of cancer, it's very sad. I've told her that it's sad. She has asked do I miss her and I say very very much. But I've told her that my Mum would of loved her to bits and that makes DD smile.
My feeling is that if we are okay to talk about stuff it takes a lot of the worry and anxiety away.
Hope this helps.
Love,
SC x x
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Post by ceci on Dec 11, 2013 21:16:22 GMT
I think it's a fairly standard question at that age, but trickier when you have a newly arrived daughter asking it! It still comes up in our house on occasions. I tell my two that everyone dies at some time. My sister died when my eldest was 4 so that was quite real for her. I too have a faith and believe in Heaven as a real place so that makes it a bit easier. Keeping it simple at this age is the only way I think. I also focus on people dying when they're old or very sick.
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Post by kstar on Dec 11, 2013 21:31:47 GMT
I get lots if this from Starlet too. She also experienced bereavement in the foster family and is therefore quite clued up about death. She constantly asks when I will die, who in our family will die and "would you be sad if I died mummy". I stumbled accidentally on something helpful the other day which I would never have dreamt of doing - we went to a carol service and had to walk through the old cemetery to get there. She was absolutely fascinated and I think it gave us a chance to talk about death in a very normal, non emotional context. I chose graves "at random" to work out how old people were when they died so she could see it was older people. We also looked at some beautiful floral arrangements that had been left recently, which very naturally led into talking about how people feel when someone dies and how nice it was that they could leave flowers and come to such a lovely place to think about the person who had died. Since then she hasn't mentioned it...
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Post by mudlark on Dec 11, 2013 21:45:05 GMT
Thankyou... little lapwing is so intelligent so wont take any rubbish from anyone I want to give her the best answers..the right answers that she deserves, answerers that keep her faith in me and in the world around her....I just cant face telling her she will die... and that is her specific question...I am usually so very clear to her in my respnces.. I think she can tell I am fluffing this one.....I am great on bounderies and consequences and being mean about no chocolate buttons...but am sadly not being great on this...but I am grateful for input here...I feel less alone!
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Post by pirate on Dec 11, 2013 22:11:32 GMT
Hello Mudlack
I have experience in answering awkward questions kids ask! My bd went through a stage of asking if I would see her from heaven when I die /can your nanny and grandad see me from heaven (sadly they died before she was born). Hubby and I answer age appropriately but honestly because that was a decision we made from the start - honesty is the best policy!
We have been honest with our adoption journey because it involves her as well, she knows it's not a yes or know at this stage, an on going process - we chat to her about where we are at in relation to what is happening.....she happy!!!
I grew up with my mum fobbing me off about any info regarding my dad, I found via my grandparents. I made contact with him years later age 29 years old via yellow pages but sadly we have nothing in common however feel complete and at peace for finding missing pieces in the puzzle.
The latest question is why do boys have Willys mummy?!! a little girl at school keeps on and on about male parts. Pirate Xxxx
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Post by dimple on Dec 12, 2013 7:40:04 GMT
We also had this from about 4 yrs old with our eldest, now 9. But not particularly from the other two so I think it depends in the child a lot. We answered honestly and as age appropriately as possible. We also bought two books from Amazon, I will dig them out later and post their titles. They were aimed at children to explain death. Initially we read them to give us some phrases to use, but over the last year or so, when he has been worried he has asked to read them himself so he has curled up with us while he has read them. It seems to come in waves and he is really upset for a while then gets it out of his system. Currently he is struggling as he is worried about me and his Dad dying. Its really difficult to deal with but being honest and open, but age appropriate has been the best way for us.
We found the books really useful. I'll get the titles after I have got the children to school.
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Post by peartree on Dec 12, 2013 8:48:42 GMT
Good morning
What An inquisitive little soul. Good she's talking about things + not bottling it Much more healthy than many
Pip is 6 and as a faith family we do believe that there's heaven awaiting The point being, although we are sad, the person who has died is in a place with no pain or tears Now she's 6 we've explained everybody dies, it's part of life and we all love and support eachother when we feel sad about it. We've found story books a help for her processing things Goodbye mog Grandpa by John Birmingham Badgers parting gift
The one I've got and used with our ac is 'the goodbye boat' it's a gentle one where you haven't had chance to say goodbye
The day the sea went out and never came back by Margot Sunderland Was a very helpful book too
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Post by lilka on Dec 12, 2013 11:58:49 GMT
My DS has asked some really difficult questions too
We've had a (not close) family member die and when I got the news, he started asking questions about death. I also chose the honest route according to my own beliefs (I'm an atheist) and I reassured him that and that death is a bit like sleeping, and people who die are totally at peace and nothing bad can happen to them again. And it's very sad for us all, but we do x,y,z to remember them and it's good to cry and show how you feel (he caught me crying)
He's had some other difficult questions as well. I'm actually happy to see he's inquisitive and curious, but it's not very easy answering the questions!!
"Mum, we got told about Noah's Ark in assembly, did it REALLY happen??" "Mum, what is karma?...But Mum, then how come bad stuff happens when you haven't done anything bad before?"
That last one was NOT fun to answer
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Post by sivier on Dec 12, 2013 12:38:42 GMT
This is such a hard one. My LO has asked this and I usually answer honestly and say 'yes, you will die as everyone does, but gosh darling not for ages and ages, and only after a long and happy life as that's when most people die, when they are old and have done the things they wanted to do'. She seems to be okay with this sort of answer, though sometimes asks about children dying, or accidents. She's very obsessed with me or DH dying, asking us not to, it's all part of her feeling out the world around her and her anxieties about loss. We are not a faith family, so I tend to talk in terms of the positives people have left behind when they die: lovely memories for others, children, beautiful gardens or other things they have made, important things they've done, adventures they've had, the love they've shared, etc. With questions about God I say 'some people believe' - and of course it's the nativity etc at the moment so there's a lot of that about. If she says 'do you believe in God' then I am honest and say no, but so and so does (ie a close friend or neighbour), and talk positively about it, and the Christian principles that I do believe in, we talk about kindness and community, which she likes and she starts to offer examples of what she can do for people....
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Post by shadow on Dec 12, 2013 17:54:11 GMT
I talked about "some people believe" and that I do believe that we carry on in some way - also that usually people die when they are old and they are ready then when they have worn their body out
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Post by sooz on Dec 12, 2013 18:20:38 GMT
This has been a hot topic around here for a couple of months. Always at night!
I have no faith so do the 'some people believe' thing. I say that I'm old and my mummy is still around, so yes people do die but not usually until they are very old.
He said 'I don't want to die mummy and I don't want you to die' so we made a pact that neither of us will for a very long time.
It's hard, and of course all this was before my recent diagnosis! But I'm beating that one for a good while, I've decided!!
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Post by swimchic on Dec 12, 2013 21:01:10 GMT
We get a lot of this...
Pinks most classic question was " who is Gods best friend"??
Certainly got us and all our friends and family thinking..
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Post by mudlark on Dec 12, 2013 21:18:30 GMT
Thank you all your answers have been inspirational! Lapwing is amazingly inquisitive. Is Jesus real, can he hear me...she is so highly anxious and vulnerable. Today she made a Christmas card for Mary and Jesus, we put a stamp on it and addressed it to The Stable (the stamp was a Christmas stamp and had a picture of Mary and Jesus on it) lapwing asked why was Joseph not on the stamp.... I was not prepared for such intelligent questions....but everyone is right honesty is the best policy.
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Post by lilka on Dec 12, 2013 22:50:39 GMT
My DS surpises me with his questions
Like the Noah's Ark one for example. I told him that some poeple believe it happened and some poeple don't, and it was up to him to decide
And he said, "But Mum how do I decide?"
I ended up getting my Bible out and reading the story with him and talking to him about it and asking him whether he thought it sounded real, telling him it was up to him. He decided that it was too implausable for Noah and family to have made it all the way to the Antarctic to rescue two penguins in time and also make it to the Amazon rainforest and get all the species of insect in existance
And I thought 'phew, it's over, how does he think about these things so much at this age?'
But no, then he asked "Mum, why does God want to kill all the people on Earth? Isn't killing people really bad and wrong?" so then we had to discuss right and wrong and sin and whether God is real or not...
I understimated children before I adopted them. They are really are much more deep thinkers often than they are given credit for
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Post by damson on Dec 13, 2013 18:14:31 GMT
Our children came to us because their mother had died, and they were understandably very worried about dying. Young children can have magical beliefs about death, and there is certainly a belief that death is 'catching'.
We found ceremonial burial of a dead blackbird very helpful. A full ritual, with ceremonial cardboad coffin. We didn't dig it up later on to see if the bird was just a skeleton, but that is only because we moved house. My brother definitely did it when we were children.
The burial of the family cat, rather more recently, was accompanied by 'Do not stand at my grave and weep, I am not there...' carefully removed from the life story book for the occasion. I loved the cat, and flubbed halfway through reading the poem out loud. DH had to finish. Still, I had to laugh inwardly when we reached 'I am the swift uplifting rush of quiet birds in circled flight'. Too right, the cat would have approved of that.
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