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Post by mooster on Apr 6, 2014 8:23:51 GMT
Just a quick question to all those Section 20 parents out there – how much say have you had over the actual placement where your child ends up?
Our AD (17) has been with a foster family for just over a year and they have now decided to ask for different accommodation to be found for her, they have run out of steam as she is so controlling. We have had increasingly good links with her but she says she does not want to come home but has been thinking about it! She says she wants to move to supported lodging.
DH and I have returned from a few days away to find that a new placement has been found and original FC has emailed me with possible dates for moving! Matters are more complicated as AD is staying with us for nine nights in the next few weeks as FC are away on holiday! Message was if everyone agrees perhaps we could drop her straight to new foster placement?! Welcome home!
New fostercarers have very little experience of fostering/adoption (approved about a year ago), have never fostered a teenager and live in the middle of nowhere with no transport links. AD has stayed with them a couple of times in summer holidays for respite and it was all very lovely but real life will be different………….
DH and I feel a bit railroaded but how much say do we actually have? We have continually had to fight the understanding of adoption/attachment battle. This feels like SS looking for an easy option which shows no thought and understanding as to what our AD actually needs. SS want this placement to move to supported lodging when she turns 18, not sure how independent you can be when relying on lifts all the time, she loves meeting friends/boyfriend in town and we have visions of her continually sofa surfing as she can’t get back!
Any advice or experiences would be gratefully received; we meet with AD Social Worker tomorrow.
Thanks for reading.
Mooster x
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 8:46:46 GMT
Not sure, but I don't think you have much grounds for objecting unless FC was negligent.
You can have a certain amount of say, but not a lot as far as I am aware. For example I was given a choice of two care homes for EDD. One was absolutely miles away in another county about 2 hours drive away and I said no way, as she would have had to leave her school and friends behind, and as DD has never had any problems at school I did not want her education and social life being disrupted, so I had to agree to the other care home, which is still about an hours train journey from school, but at least she could continue to attend the same school. They are about to move her into a new foster placement as they now realise she should never have been placed in a care home in the first place (another story), but this time I am insisting that they find her a placement closer to school as she has not been able to maintain any contact with any of her friends after school or at the weekends because of the distance. Also last SW was very PC and insisted she was placed with black carers (DD is mixed race), and this time I am saying I don't care what colour the FC is, as long as it is closer to school/friends/home.
I think you have a certain amount of say and you should at least get a choice of two places. They will always try and tell you they have no other placements, but that's rubbish, you should be offered at least two places to choose from and if you just agree to the first one offered they won't bother looking for another one and will take the easy way out.
Try writing a list of all the reasons why this offered placement won't meet her needs and say that you are not happy about it. Worst case scenario, she might have to go there for a few weeks until they find her another more suitable placement, but remember SS, will always try and go for the easy option and will always try and tell you that they don't have anywhere else in the hope that you take her home.
Stand your ground and make a fuss. Ask to speak to the IRO if nothing appears to be happening regarding search for more suitable accomodation. He is DD spokesperson and should speak out on her behalf.
Good Luck
Let us know how you get on
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Post by corkwing on Apr 7, 2014 6:57:11 GMT
Hi, Mooster -
As Madrid said, we have had no say. We have been informed but not consulted. Even when, with his last move, we expressed shock and alarm, we were met with the sweet "I'm sure it'll all work out" sort of attitude. We did write to the independent reviewing officer but haven't even had an acknowledgement.
All the best,
Corkwing
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Post by Janie2 on Apr 7, 2014 18:12:12 GMT
Hi Mooster Our ad's first placement was SS's choice - cheap and cheerful, and as we were really rather desperate for her to be S20, we consented. She received no education in the months she was there, as her school had excluded her to a pupil referall centre, that she just used to walk out of! The home was in an awful area and she was targeted by Sex gangs. It was all an utter nightmare, we thought she would just dissapear or be killed, but she was groomed and could not see the horrors of it all. I shouted loud and hard to SS and told them they would have to deal with a dead child, not a live child. They quickly removed her into a home in the middle of nowhere, which had their own EBD school. She did well on heir 1:1 education, but she has learning difficulties and will never achieve much. She now lives in a council flat on Housing benefit and the bank of Mum and Dad, but she is a kind, loving girl. What her future holds we do not know. If you are not happy with SS suggestion, stand by your guns. We were lucky we had a fiesty SW who did her best for our ad, and stuck her neck out many times. We found the IRO a complete waste of time, just someone who attended the meetings to tick boxes! Good luck. Spring x
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Post by damson on Apr 7, 2014 18:20:53 GMT
At 17, I suspect you have very little say about AD's placement. She can even deaccommodate herself if she wants. I think it rather likely that the respite placement is a placeholder, as they may get a semi- independent placement for her before she is 18. Really it would be much better if she could have a foster family and 'stay put' longer than 18. How did your meeting go? D
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Post by mooster on Apr 8, 2014 6:51:48 GMT
Thanks for all your replies.
Meeting went much as we thought - no other options available. We clearly stated our concerns which were acknowledged. Current FC's want out and this is best quick option for now. They could look for FC's with more experience but then it could end up over the other side of the county etc. etc. SW was clear it was not what she wanted for AD but....... We have no worries about new FC's keeping her safe, which is after all their primary job just that the location is isolated for her and there is limited experience in terms of helping her develop the skills she needs for life. We continue to fight the battle for the right therapy to support her!
Haven't met our IRO yet as the last one left a few months ago so no idea how supportive/up to speed they will be. Our next review meeting is in a couple of weeks.
Need to speak to AD about it but our guess is she wants to go there without really thinking through the longer term implications, we will see how long the honeymoon period lasts this time!
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Post by peartree on Apr 13, 2014 22:08:26 GMT
The only time we got what we felt was the right option is before blossom was s20. The mp got involved to help us Blossom got the Tc placement she needed
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