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Post by oogleschnook on Nov 15, 2013 9:24:48 GMT
Hello!
Am looking to pick your brains for any top tips about managing intros with LOs already in the family.
We've two adopted LOs and are soon to start intros for number 3.
LO's know about tiddler and are very excited at the moment.
For those who have done this, how did you manage intros? At what point did LO's all meet? Did you keep LOs off school for intros? Be really interested to hear your thoughts...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 9:36:27 GMT
Not got any experience of this as my two came home together.
I know Chotimonkey has just done this with her newest addition in the last few days. She may reply if she has the time, but you might like to read her intro's for some tips.
I think the biggest thing she said that worked for her was having the GP's come to stay with them in the accomodation, as GP's were not only able to help out entertaining the older two, but also cooked meals for the family which freed her up to concentrate on LO.
Don't know if this would be feasible for you, but it certainly worked for Choti and also helped the GP's feel involved too. (that's Grand Parents not Dr's LOL)
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Post by gilreth on Nov 15, 2013 12:31:35 GMT
I cannot answer from my own experience but my sister has recently adopted her second son. They only had a short distance to go to FC so didn't have problems with having to stay away from home for Intros. However my elder nephew was not introduced to new LO initially - he spent time with me and his grandparents. Then during Intros they did some of it (during day) with both of them. But for learning routines either my sister or brother-in-law went to FC house by themseves and the other one stayed to do routines with their existing son. This was during summer holidays so eldest nephew was off school as it was.
I asked my prep group friend who did Intros during school time and they mainly sent their birth child to school picking him up after school to join them at FC. The major issue with school is there is almost no flexibility in the system anymore - your 4 yr old will be fine (statutory obligation starts the term after they turn 5). However any child aged 5 or over there seems to little flexibility beyond compassionate leave and illness for absence during school time (DfE regulations and Mr Gove) - worth talking to the school about this however. But you risk a fine if you keep a child who should be in school off without prior agreement which is more difficult to get than it used to be.
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Post by dimple on Nov 15, 2013 12:49:41 GMT
We are in a similar position to you and I am not sure how to handle the actually introduction of our BC to LO.
We are approaching intros at the very beginning of January. We have three children. Fortunately our intros are fairly local, but my mum is going to live at our house for most of january to help us. She did this went we had our third child too. It was a massive help. She will be getting the children ready for school, taking them, collecting them etc when we are away with LO and generally allowing us to concentrate on the intros. Also she will be free during the day so will be able to rest then so hopefully it won't be too much for her. Our friends will also help out wherever needed.
We have spoken to school and they are very supportive, the head's best friend has recently adopted a toddler and she was a reference and very involved in the support of her friend. So we are very lucky that she understand about intros. We are trying to minimise the time out of school but it is inevitable the children will miss some, again the head is being very good about this. Our children do have an excellent attendance record and I do a lot of work with the school PTFA so having a good relationship has definately helped with this.
So that is all good, the part which bothers me is when our three actualy meet LO. They are very excited about a brother and are very cuddly and demonstrative children. They will want to cuddle and play with him. He will be 14 mths old at intros. I don't want to hold them back too much, but it will be overwhelming to a baby if they all want a cuddle and to play. I need a plan for them meeting him where it doesn't overwhelm LO.
Hope you don't mind me adding to your thread, but any advce from anyone who has done this, or any fostercarers who have expereiced moving a child to family with children already would be gratefully received.
Mum to 3 birth children, linked to 12 month old little boy. Hopefully coming home at beginning of January.
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Post by smileycat on Nov 15, 2013 13:03:23 GMT
I insisted that DD was included in most of intro's... (SW's not too pleased but I said too bad!!) We home ed but if we didn't I would of asked for some time off school.... It worked really well . Potato would of been worried about Spud/ what we were doing/ feeling left out otherwise.
What happened was by the time Spud joined us the two of them had begun to really connect which was lovely. Spud had had the chance to do this in an environment he was comfortable with and for DD it helped her to see where he had been previously too.
How exciting- hope all goes well.
SC x x
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Post by loadsofbubs on Nov 15, 2013 13:07:33 GMT
am doing this from the other side very soon so watching with interest as its new to me too! all my other bubs have been the first child to the parents so easier to manage at a distance. I had one that went under SGO and the son of the auntie met LO the week before she was due to move, but he was almost an adult so very different. little man's intros include an older (2.5 year old) sibling. I have some ideas how it could work but don't know the sibling so really need to be led by the parents on that. do know that grandma is coming up too for all the reason quoted above by others. good luck with it though.
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Post by donatella on Nov 15, 2013 13:35:56 GMT
We did our second set when our eldest was not quite 4 and our third set when our eldest was 5 and middly 2. 2nd set reasonably close, third a 2 hour drive. Second set fab and understanding Fc who made things as easy as possible, third somewhat more difficult and arrangements changed.
Never did morning or bedtime routine in any set, though did do nappy changes and lunchtimes.
For nos 2 and 3 we did the first day alone as we thought it would be too overwhelming for the new lo to have too many people there at once. Bigly met middly on day 2 - we took him out of school for the day - but then my mum and dad took over with him so that his routine wasn't too disrupted. He did, though, still see him every day.
With littly we were quite careful as we were anticipating that it may be difficult. We took the boys on day 3 and gad planned two nights in a hotel with them, so that they could be there for the rest of the intros and to bring her home. Didn't work out like that and we had to take them home after one day and continue without them there. We left them with grandparents on day 5 so that we could pick up littly and bring her home.
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Post by chotimonkey on Nov 15, 2013 14:04:56 GMT
Hi Yes are just home from intros for curious george (little man 10 months) with our two ads (3 and nearly 2) We were about two hours from home so we had a "holiday house" apartment rather than hotel accommodation , which had exciting things like a play house, park round the corner, etc. we also took a tonne of slcalm atuff for the girls, favourite DVDs, new sticker books glue, crayons, playdough, snow dough, books, mix of old and new toys for security and novelty. My parents came with us so that they could look after the girls whilst we were with curious george. They also did all cooking and shopping and petrol runs which helped immeasurably. Otherwise go for easy easy food to make and clear up, my mum froze some stuff and brought it for evening meals. As well as the official intro plan, we made our own schedule for who would be where when, I spent almost the entire time with curious george, whilst dh brought dds over to see curious george, took tgem home and did breakfast and dinner with them. We let the girls stay up a bit later so I could get stories and bedtime snuggles with them. As ours were similar in age the time at FC was quite easy as they has lots of toys that were age appropriate for our girls, but if not think about what to take to FC to amuse them. We tried to make the whole intros seem like a special holiday with lots of little treats to give them positive associations with curious george. We ali kept all children in their respective routines. We went a day before intros started to settle into accommodation and talked to the girls everyday about what would be happening and when we would see them, grandparents did lots of making things to show mummy when she got home a d took lots of phone pics m to show mummy' to reinforce we were coming back. We also use ' whats app'' phone app to make lots of videos to send back and forth, between us. Before intros FC and I had been sending lots of short video clips by email to each other To show the children of each other and started a sort of video conversation between them and in the last couple of weeks we'd send nursery rhymes night night clips etc We are going to keep all clips and edit them together to make a video of the whole time. Dds have used curious George's intros to help them do some processing of their own adoption, squirrel monkey (3) particularly has started to get a real sense of herself as a baby being v. Loved in FC, howler monkey (nearly two) is a bit young too understand in the same way.l Our intros this time were v short, and squirrel and howler are v settled and have v positive relationships with tgeir grandoarents, so squirrel and howler only had two full days where we were away from them. Howlers intros were longer and squirrel had only been with us for 5 months, I didn't feel comfortable leaving her and she had been with same FC, so was v comfortable in the house so we had her with us all the time. With two you still have enough adults for one to one ratio, so if dh was playing with squirrel I was with howler and vice versa... With three another two pairs of hands was v helpful Hope this helps, sorry it's so random I've written different bits if it over several 5 min bursts of quiet Please feel fre to pm if you want to ask anything Good luck
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Post by chotimonkey on Nov 15, 2013 14:08:44 GMT
Should have said, we have sibling adoption, so our monkeys have been having monthly contact since may
And are under school age but I did take squirrel out if nursery... I'd def take schoolies out if I was away and look at how much they needed to be out for local adoptions... Might be nice to spend a morning with lo whilst older ones are at school
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Post by oogleschnook on Nov 15, 2013 19:44:10 GMT
Thank you ever so much everyone, really really helpful to hear all your experiences and thoughts.
Chotimonkey, especially appreciate you taking the time to reply given how very busy you must be!
Lots of food for thought here. Will definitely be roping the Grandparents in!
Dimples, I know what you mean about worrying about your children overwhelming new LO.... At the moment my two are so very excited and I think they will want to smother tiddler - however, tiddler does not sound like a little one who will like being smothered.... Was thinking for first meeting may get them to give tiddler a new toy and via FC get tiddler to give them both one so that might take the focus off them thinking tiddler is the new toy!
Hadn't thought about whether school will let LOs be off - will need to speak to them.
Oooh, very exciting (and scary)!
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Post by loadsofbubs on Nov 15, 2013 20:57:35 GMT
I have bought a toy for little man's sibling for the same reason Oogles.
LM doesn't mind being smothered particularly but thought so much attention going to LM might need a little sweetner for sibling! Toy is packed and ready for LM to present to sibling when they meet.
I also did a little intro book for sibling, a bit like the family books that come for the bubs (but not with sound!) so sibling has some idea about the new baby and where he lives, who will be there etc.
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Post by nomoretears on Nov 15, 2013 21:24:00 GMT
That's a lovely idea Loadsofbubs, might pinch it for future intros myself if you don't mind!
Almost all the intros I've done so far have had older children in the new family. It's common (and understandable) for new parents to want the other children involved from day one, but really not practical.
The one time it happened everyone (including parents) was so overwhelmed that the morning became a farce and no-one really got anything out of it - and that first meeting is so important.
I'd keep the first meeting fairly brief if possible, then build on that gradually. Most of my intros have been fairly local and have worked best when grandparents or relatives helped out, leaving any real interaction between the children to when the action moves to adoptive parent's houses.
My house is geared up for different ages of children but not all foster carers will be so I second the advice about taking some toys if needed. Even if there are toys there your other children will probably benefit from having something familiar to them.
Be prepared for even the best behaved children to become little terrors! They're excited, confused and anxious and so are you. Add a load of long days to the mix and tempers are bound to flare.
SWs don't always take all this stress into account when planning intros so try and insist on at least 1 rest day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 9:54:47 GMT
Bumping for Lovelybee
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Post by lovelybee on Apr 21, 2014 15:12:01 GMT
Thanks JMK!
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