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Post by peartree on Nov 4, 2013 13:41:49 GMT
Blossoms team are keen to take her to visit a women's prison
To help with when that tags removed in December
I'm not sure what to think
Any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 13:59:34 GMT
Think it might be a good idea PT for her to see where she could end up if things got worse.
The police and SS do this a lot with young offenders and it seems to work with most of them.
You know Blossom best and if you think it would help I'd say let her go and have a look.
Trouble is she might like it?
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Post by shadow on Nov 4, 2013 14:06:49 GMT
With my training years ago I visited a prison and a secure hospital - I hated the feeling of the gates closing and locking behind me - it was scary at age 19 - we did meet 2 very famous prisoners in the prison
from your heading it sounds like they are including you in the visit- that will be distressing for you I imagine - hope they anticipate that
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Post by serrakunda on Nov 4, 2013 14:32:41 GMT
does sound a bit extreme. Does Blossom respond to shock tactics? Is there no opportunity for her to talk to former prisoners in another environment. A few years ago I visted a social enterprise I was working with at the time - they were training young offenders/potential offenders in building trades. One of the instructers was a former prisoner who told us his story and how/why he had turned his life around. It was a very powerful story, me and my colleague were in tears. And I know he had a great influence on the young people who passed through his hands and kept many of them out of trouble
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Post by pluto on Nov 4, 2013 17:07:58 GMT
As she has been on a criminale path I would let them take her there as that will be the place she ends up if she continues to make poor choices. (I still do not understand this fully as I would think autistic teens would end up in specialised asd units, schools) I myself would refuse to visit with her as I would tell her if you end up there you will also be all on your own. If that happens I might be able to visit you ones in a while, but most of the time you will have no contact with anyone from 'outside'. Might sound harsh but it is the honest truth.
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Post by jollymummy on Nov 4, 2013 17:47:18 GMT
I think you should let her go. I also think it would be useful for you to go too, so that you and she can reflect on it together afterwards. Also, so that when she tries to play it down later you can remind her what it was really like (cos you were there and you saw it too!).
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Post by littlemisscheerful on Nov 5, 2013 11:27:03 GMT
I would let her go and go with with her for all the reasons that Jollymummy mentions.
A bit different but a visit from Comm Police had much more effect on my then 11 yr old behaviours towards me than anything I was saying.
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Post by ham on Nov 5, 2013 15:34:29 GMT
I tried this with dd and she was even locked into a cell but at that time it made no impression and she wanted to go back there.so for her it was not helpful.bizzarely it was the idea of not being able to have a MacDonald's had a bigger impact on her.
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Post by aprilshowers on Nov 6, 2013 10:18:31 GMT
middly did this as part of a school assignment when she was in the PRU, she hated it, did not like being locked in, found the prisoners and guards very scary.
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Post by peartree on Nov 7, 2013 11:42:20 GMT
I'm thinking she could be terrified
But may equally think this is full of people like me and not so bad!
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Post by phoebe on Nov 7, 2013 11:43:12 GMT
I am sure it works for lots of kids with cause and effect thinking, and we did this at a school I worked at. I don't know that it would have the same impact for Blossom, in terms of her maybe not being able to rationally "choose" her response when her anxiety is high, so if she can't link the decision and potential consequences, it may be of limited value? x
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