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Post by janpan on Oct 20, 2013 9:12:19 GMT
Now I know that teenagers are not know for rushing around cleaning, but mine are completely unable to help out around the house unless there is an explosive mum going off. So, on the one hand they won't let us parent them and they can do everything themselves and know all there is to know, but on the other hand, can't pick their own dirty knickers off the middle of the floor, turn a light off, hang up their towel? What's that about then? Oh - I know - Planet Adoption (and a little bit of that inability to process instructions, even if it's the same instruction repeated daily over 8 years). Grrrrr.
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Post by moo on Oct 20, 2013 9:20:49 GMT
Ahha Thanx janpan wondered what affliction it was dogging my two.... P'raps it ought to be an official itis!! Notlisteningits.... Can'trememberits....itwasn'tmeits....
Xx. moo. Xx
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Post by homebird on Oct 20, 2013 10:03:30 GMT
Sadly not confined to planet adoption. I used to send my eldest birth daughter up to tidy her room and find her two hours later happily reading through all her old notebooks from primary school - and the room actually looking worse because she'd pulled everything out from under her bed! Also, why does tidying involve stuffing all their clothes, dirty and clean (that they couldn't put away when ironed and folded nicely by mum) into the dirty laundry bin!
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Post by shadow on Oct 20, 2013 11:12:53 GMT
some is normal teen stuff - and some here is that fact that shadette simply does not care - after 9 years does not accept my values - is happy for the house to stink of urine and to be wearing obviously urine stained clothing
any mention this is not acceptable cause massive screaming fits
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 13:15:27 GMT
I have a rule on my house that if dirty laundry is not put in the laundry basket, then it does not get washed.  I refuse to go into their rooms picking clothes up of the floor, or searching out under beds, down the sides of chest of drawers etc. If it ain't in the laundry bin then tough. Very effective when they want to wear a favourite top, or pair of jeans and ask where they are. I just reply "did it go in the laundry basket, because if it did then it would be washed and ready to wear, if not then, not my problem, try and remember to put it in there next time". Usually followed by me saying "I am not your servant". Funnily enough, they have learned to take their own dirty laundry to the basket. 
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Post by janpan on Oct 20, 2013 14:16:52 GMT
I have tried that strategy, but then nothing goes in the laundry basket and they are both quite happy to wear dirty clothes - in my DDs case, really filthy. Given that DS likes to sleep with his dirty underwear under his pillow I haven't got a lot of leverage there. I have tried taking all the clean clothes (after I have washed them) into my room so that I manage the clothes, but then I am just doing all the work and they do even less and still don't really care and I end up with a room full of piles of clothes. We have a septic tank, which means that only loo roll can go down the toilet. My DD is nearly 13 and quite mature physically, so you can imagine what else is left on the floor of her room along with the knickers. 
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Post by phoebe on Oct 20, 2013 15:42:51 GMT
Oh Janpan, I do feel for you! It's hard to know what to try next isn't it? We have, over the years, tried the not washing if it isn't in the wash - DS just wears filthy clothes! Tried not mucking out his room - became dangerously vile and smelly, making his asthma very bad. Sometimes, he can tolerate me "being alongside" and "sorting it together" like with younger children, but mostly he just tells me to eff off! He's just come back from 8 weeks away, where apparently he tidied his room, did his own washing, etc. Guess what? Today he has "unpacked" - a pile of dirty clothes on top of his "clean" clothes, and they are all over the floor of the holiday cottage. None of his washing is clean, cos he's been washing at 15 degrees and for only 30 mins! Apparently that's how the FC does all the washing!!!! It's hard to live with someone who stinks, isn't it? I am not a naturally tidy person but his level of squalor drives me mad! It took me ages to work out how why DS chose such smelly friends, but I think subconsciously ther's a familiarity about that rank odour from his early days, which draws him to them! I am sneaking a few pieces at a time into the washer with a nice dose of fairy, dettol fabric steriliser and some comfort pure! Hopefully by the end of this week it will be a bit less smelly in his room! x
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Post by shadow on Oct 20, 2013 16:12:59 GMT
its horrid - am glad is a strange sort of way to hear others live with the smell and squalor - shadette also wouldn't care about wearing clean clothes etc - and I have leather chairs and couch so they can be cleaned before anyone else sits on them otherwise everyone ends up stinking as well!
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Post by lemonade on Oct 20, 2013 17:05:12 GMT
I found payment helped when my ad's were young, we all worked out a list of prices ie 50p £1 etc, as they didn't get pocket money and had to earn it. I found as they got older they would come and ask what can I do to earn xxxx Helped Fizz a lot and she enjoyed learning the skills, but Bubbles although she knows how to do lots include make her bed, ironing etc and did it when she lived here, chooses not to do it now she is not living at home. I do try and turn a blind eye to her choice way of living and occasionally buy her cleaning supplies to encourage her and offer to help her. But sometimes I just have to intervene like when she had 6 bin bags full of rotting rubbish in the lounge 
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Post by janpan on Oct 20, 2013 18:09:26 GMT
Right, so it doesn't get much better then .... :rolls eyes: 
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Post by phoebe on Oct 20, 2013 18:22:08 GMT
janpan, there are interludes! Sometimes, when they are in a new romance, they get mad keen on bathing, fresh clothes and tidying the house. Sadly, it often doesn't last as it's too much effort! x
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Post by lemonade on Oct 20, 2013 18:51:42 GMT
None of his washing is clean, cos he's been washing at 15 degrees and for only 30 mins! AD was washing with JUST fabric softener ... guess that's why the clothes were still badly stained. As she pointed out ... well it does say on the bottle 'makes clothes clean and fresh' 
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Post by phoebe on Oct 20, 2013 18:55:58 GMT
Ooh er! The power of marketing! I still find it hard to see how 10 years hasn't over-ridden the carp from the first three, but it seems DS cannot keep hold of the values I have tried to instill. I spent fortunes on special washing liquids to help his damaged skin etc. Now he tries to advise me to use cheap, nasty and poor quality detergents with vile over-perfumed twangs!x
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Post by shadow on Oct 20, 2013 19:17:26 GMT
its so hard wired isn't it phoebe- I know shadettes family all slept together at one point on a smelly mattress on the living room floor - with no sheets and it was urine stained
she was left in wet/soiled clothes, put to bed wearing them and taken to nursery in them the next day -nearly 5 years of that has set her way of being that I just cant change
I am so hoping the Care Home she is going to will be able to help her change this
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Post by phoebe on Oct 20, 2013 19:30:10 GMT
It is a nightmare isn't it? I have worked really hard with DS on his sensory issues around clothing and textiles. HE often takes all his bedding off to sleep on the bare mattress, unwraps his duvet etc. I suppose it's just familiar in a way he cannot understand. So sad.x
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Post by aprilshowers on Oct 21, 2013 11:29:11 GMT
Don't even get me started about the state of rooms....three teens....aaaahhhh and the things I have found are not printable in polite society....I just do it, its my house, I don't live like that so I want it clean and tidy so I just do it.
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Post by shadow on Oct 21, 2013 11:37:53 GMT
I would do it if shadette wasn't in it all the time! for 9 years I have tried to get her to manage her environment and her own hygiene - I guess now she is going to move to the care home, she will get worse as she is terrified while she waits - and I just have to manage it as best I can - and all the other old behaviours that are re surfacing!
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Post by littlemisscheerful on Oct 21, 2013 15:31:45 GMT
My 11 yr old is just ditzy, so doesn't think. She will, when reminded, clear up. My 13 yr old hates doing anything I ask her to do, - if I get the right tone, and the right words at the right moment, she may do as I ask. If I make things as esay as possible, (thinking about all the yukky things), - moving the bathroom bin so that she can reach it while sitting on the toilet stops unmentionables being put down the back of the bath panel (!) or slung into the corner behind the bin. However, if she had a friend coming, she would turn into Flylady! Another reason why I'm trying hard to find some more local friends for her.
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Post by phoebe on Oct 21, 2013 17:34:51 GMT
Littlemisscheerful, I wonder if anyone hires out dates and mates for troubled teens? We could buy one in for a weekend, get a clean house and teenager, then sit back and relax! lolx
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