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Post by mudlark on Sept 3, 2017 21:41:41 GMT
We have had probably the best holidays yet it terms of just dealing with it... Lapwing has had ups and downs but ..wow she has been amazing this holiday. So I am feeling sad they are going back on Wednesday. albeit for Lapwing for just one day.. the joy of part time home schooling... so for me a successful if intense 6 weeks.. I wonder how others are feeling.... ( I must admit I am sort of looking forward to Wednesday which will be my first child free day in seven weeks.....coffee, book, pottering around....!)
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Post by esty on Sept 3, 2017 21:59:25 GMT
We've actually had a great one, partly due to me getting time to myself, well still had Big fish but he's a doddle considering, being away for three weeks meaning no time for Twisty fish to be worrying about technology, playing out, etc., and he is definitely maturing. Only two full on major meltdowns, the rest all manageable controlling, verbal pedantry which we all started zombie dabbing to when it got too much. Ready for starting the stress that is school ands the 4-5 hour driving daily horror again. Actually got Shrimp staying tonight (in foster care, 13) and both boys have played well, enjoyed Country show and both went to bed at 9pm after only 5 times of asking and both asleep now. They are doing their traditional surfing session tomorrow so they are both too knackered to think about school tomorrow night!
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Post by serrakunda on Sept 3, 2017 22:12:05 GMT
knackered We've had a great time. I've had three weeks off. Been to some fantastic sporting events, he had a great birthday, lovely holiday in Rhodes, followed by super weekend in Cornwall. I finally got to go to the Minack theatre for a bit of grown up culture, and took Simba to see a steam punk version of Macbeth performed in a church. Followed by two days of madness with the Amigos down on the farm. Simba had grown up a lot and is beginning to be more independent. Its gone by too quickly. Its year 9, I'm anticipating its going to be hard work, I hate my job so don't want to go back, but can't wait to get my Thursdays and Fridays back. Roll on half term!
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Post by daffin on Sept 4, 2017 11:54:02 GMT
I wish I could be as positive as you guys.
Monkey Boy has been extremely challenging and has driven us to the depths of despair. He has been on a mission to annoy, defy etc and there has been regular violence. No amount of therapeutic parenting has been able to reach him and patterns/ triggers have been hard to find - other than he can't cope with change and a holiday is inevitably different to term time.
Back to school tomorrow. Hopefully he will settle down a bit!
Mouse, on the other hand, has been a delight. Sad not to be able to be more even handed, but that's how it is!
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Post by esty on Sept 4, 2017 18:03:37 GMT
It has taken over 5 years to get here and we're not out of the woods yet. It also greatly helps me to see him as disabled by his needs and therefore I'm more empathic when I remember to do this. I never adopted him to be a mum. I adopted him to give him the best life chances and I think this is what helps me to cope. What with Big Fish my life will never be normal, I have to survive on very little sleep and with endless external battles with authorities. My description of our summer is miles away from someone's mainstream normal summer but its been good on reflection of where we have come from, not in comparison to some supposed 'norm'. Hope that makes you feel better Daffin. Its not by chance either, I'm working very hard to achieve this and it will all go again as school hits in. And it was only May when there were major problems and Big f was being put at life threatening risk (not aimed at him but inadvertently).
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Post by daffin on Sept 4, 2017 19:53:26 GMT
Thanks Esty. I get what you're saying. But I don't feel much better!
I suppose, one of my problems is, I did adopt to be a Mum. Another is, that nearly 6 years in, we are still struggling so much (with a child who was described before placement as 'doing fine' and having 'no problems'). We're 2.5 years in to therapy/ NVR and DH and I work so hard to provide Monkey Boy with therapeutic parenting, structure and firm boundaries but it's hard to see fundamental changes. His disorganised attachment, anxiety and ODD still drive really challenging behaviour. The very limited progress may be down to 'organic' things going on (perhaps a cognitive impairment, maybe ASD, maybe ADHD, maybe FASD). But it might just be that the trauma and neglect he experienced was so great that progress will be very limited and very slow.
In the meantime, his behaviour makes it impossible for DH, Mouse or me to live normally. Everything, every moment that Monkey Boy is up and in the house revolves around him or is in response to him.
This sounds harsh and unloving. It's not. But it is the bald truth.
In reality, I think Monkey Boy needed to be an only child and probably with a single parent, as he can't cope with the dynamic of family life.
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Post by flossie on Sept 5, 2017 10:04:01 GMT
How do I feel?....... A wrung out dishcloth comes to mind....!
On the one hand I'm pleased that school is staring tomorrow but also I know the battle to get Lola there will begin again, I think the first day will be ok until reality kicks in! I probably sound really negative, self care will help I'm sure...
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Post by serrakunda on Sept 5, 2017 11:48:44 GMT
sorry its been so tough Daffin
This has been our best summer - primarily because I think I have learnt that the best thing to do is just to keep Simba moving ! And I have had three weeks off work which has helped enormously.
However, for the first time school is becoming an issue. Up to last year school was the favourite place to be, we used to have arguments about why he couldn't go on a Saturday. Not so keen now. I forsee a difficult year.
Swings and roundabouts.
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Post by mudlark on Sept 5, 2017 21:04:56 GMT
I agree with Serrakunda's ' keep them moving'
I have tried to keep them moving all summer long....swimming has been a huge help, Lawping less so, but she has still enjoyed being in the water, Peewit has definitely responded to being in the water and the physical input from just swimming lengths. Being 'out and about' has been essential as has the weekly plan on the wall of what we are doing.
I have also found that letting them 'read in bed'..( they now have separate rooms) something I have never allowed has also helped with sleeping. they each have a clock on their wall and now have the privilege of reading for half an hour...
..but if their is one thing I have learned over and over again is to have the summer holidays planned and active! But oh how I am looking forward to tomorrow despite being sad its all over!
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Post by esty on Sept 6, 2017 9:02:15 GMT
That is why I go away for three weeks. We travel around visiting places with routines within that. It means that I don't have the endless fight fover what we are going to do. There are no technology fights as there is no technology, No arguing about going out with other kids, no bedtime fights because we're all so knackered we all go to bed around the same time. He's also a contained being for philosophical talks whilst driving. By design the carers we take are like family members who are all into mindfulness so there is a lot of spoken and non spoken appreciation of being in the moment and celebrating life as it is. With Big Fish I knew Inwas getting a very physically disabled child but I didn't know I was getting one that would scream for hours over 6 years, and then one that has major life threatening breathing and swallowing difficulties. My life is not anywhere near normal but I appreciate the good bits in it even if few and far between. There was a period in May when it was all too much but I made myself step back and organised a good period of time where Twisty Fish was elsewhere so I could fullybrecharge my batteries. Life feels so much more positive now even though its the same life.
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Post by damson on Sept 6, 2017 19:52:51 GMT
The school holidays have come to an end here, but this year, for the first time in 13 years, I have no child returning to school. It feels very odd.
Instead... a very brisk search for work, so that there is no scenario when parents get up and go out to work and AS lols at home doing nothing. Work has come through and family life has calmed down, phew.
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Post by daffin on Sept 7, 2017 12:26:01 GMT
And breathe.....
Monkey Boy is relieved to be back to the routine of school and is calmer and less antagonistic as a result (still managed to shout "I hate you" repeatedly at me at breakfast time, and threw Mouse's sandal across the room just..... because he could).
I celebrated by going to the office yesterday (I normally work from home) and spent the morning at the gym, followed by making a king prawn green curry for my lunch. Yum!
Now down to a quick bit of work before picking up Mouse from nursery!
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Post by esty on Sept 7, 2017 16:21:51 GMT
Sounds more positive. Getting time for me helps big time.
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Post by runmum on Sept 7, 2017 18:43:17 GMT
It's been awful here. Monkey Boy has just started secondary school and despite all our transition efforts he became very stressed towards the last 2 weeks of the holidays. This coincided with the time when I had to manage him and his brother at home as there were no suitable day camps. We had the return of the "in car violence" making us all terrified - we have not had that for years! We have had lots of locking self in the bathroom and refusing to comply with any need to go out as a family making stuff hard for Jealous Dog. JD has been diagnosed with ADHD and OCD as well as all his trauma and neglect stuff. Good to have diagnoses as there are good treatments but lots to deal with. MB has had numerous physical health hospital appointments. I am totally wiped out.
Glad to hear there have been some positive experiences for others. We did make it to day 7 of the family holiday before rundad said "I don't know why we bother it's a total waste of time." He usually says that after 10 minutes so progress even if it's just his tolerance.
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Post by daffin on Sept 7, 2017 21:41:34 GMT
Ha! So much for calmer!
one hour fifteen minutes worth of punching, biting, head butting, chucking things etc this evening.
Mouse was too frightened to go to sleep and care and support worker and I were in shock afterwards - and I put my back out trying to restrain him.
sorry to hear about the regression, runmum. Sounds tough! We've also had a resurgence of car-based violence this summer. Awful! I hope he settles down once he gets into a routine at school. Going up to big school is a biggie, isn't it!
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Post by runmum on Sept 9, 2017 9:14:19 GMT
Daffin really feel for you! Horrible day yesterday MB gave another boy a huge kick in the park and then whipped him with his tie. Visit from the Mum - another child filmed the whole thing she made me feel like a piece of scum. Feel like we can't let him out of our sight. I think we need a "manny" but it's a hassle now as you have to set up pensions for them etc grrrrr. Just cream crackered physically and emotionally. Hope you've had a better couple of days x
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Post by moo on Sept 9, 2017 10:17:03 GMT
{{{runmum}}}
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Post by runmum on Sept 10, 2017 21:04:01 GMT
Thanks Moo. Today was a bit better. But we have said Monkey Boy cannot go out to park without an adult and he is v cross about this. He just marched off today saying he was going anyway so I had to grab Jealous Dog and follow him. It's going to be a mission keeping him out of trouble. Feeling bleak but less bleak than Friday.
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Post by daffin on Sept 11, 2017 7:40:06 GMT
Sounds really difficult runmum.
The defiance and impulsiveness sounds horribly familiar.
i can't remember, what therapeutic/ behavioural inputs are you getting for Monkey Boy? Is anything helping?
Despite having to pay into a pension fund, I think getting a manny is a good idea.
I've pm'd you.
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