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Post by spideress on Oct 23, 2015 13:14:21 GMT
Friends of ours who have just adopted are considering starting the overseas adoption process in a year or so to hopefully give 3 ish years between placements... I don't know if it's something you'd consider. I think the focus on kinship care is so damaging! It's always bfamily needs before the child's and the early years damage done as we all know is not reparable I always thought that an overseas adoption process was an expensive thing? Aside from that though I thought you had to be approved as an adopter in this country first before you could take an overseas child so wouldn't the problem still be the same of trying to get an agency who would approve the adopter(s) in the first place?
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Post by chotimonkey on Oct 23, 2015 13:28:18 GMT
I don't know enough about it tbh... Havnt looked into it properly myself, but their thinking was its a v long process so get started and saving now. They have just had a lo placed and another couple I know with a bc with a specific learning disability are being approved fro 0-2 They both live in large cities and are going through consortiums with 4 diff boroughs in them. Las still training and placing seem to be ones in consortiums on densely populated areas or like our placing la which was more rural but covered an Unfeasibly large area so always had children coming in. Maybe a bit of discreet digging into different la's night be helpful
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Post by pluto on Oct 23, 2015 20:28:32 GMT
The cost for the assessment are a fraction of all the other costs involved!
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Post by spideress on Oct 24, 2015 19:58:14 GMT
A week or so ago I was reading about a toddler killed by his guardian (SGO) who was a family member. I suspect the assessments for family SGOs are less stringent than for adopters. I have asked my MP to represent this situation to government.......that guardians should have the same stringent process as adopters as they face all the same, if not more, challenges.
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Post by spideress on Oct 24, 2015 20:11:24 GMT
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Post by esty on Oct 24, 2015 22:54:56 GMT
There's a little girl with CP up for adoption in the North East desperate for a family. Absolutely gorgeous but because of CP (cerebral palsy, very mild) no one is looking at her. Just want to say don't dismiss the child with a disability as they may be the perfect child for you. This goes out to all prospectives out there. I wouldn't be without my Big Fish and apart from the stress of services he is a lovely child who has given me so much in so many ways. He has also been the perfect brother for Little Minnow in ways never expected.
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Post by spideress on Oct 25, 2015 19:46:43 GMT
There's a little girl with CP up for adoption in the North East desperate for a family. Absolutely gorgeous but because of CP (cerebral palsy, very mild) no one is looking at her. Just want to say don't dismiss the child with a disability as they may be the perfect child for you. This goes out to all prospectives out there. I wouldn't be without my Big Fish and apart from the stress of services he is a lovely child who has given me so much in so many ways. He has also been the perfect brother for Little Minnow in ways never expected. I read about that and also now that is has been made public they are apparently inundated with offers for that little girl. I doubt they would every place us with a child who has complex needs (for eg disability) as they say (1) they have to consider Incy and the impact that would have on him and (2) DH has a condition which is slowly disabling him and their big concern is that I will become his carer at some point so they would not want me to have a child that might need my day to day care for the remainder of my life.
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Post by esty on Oct 25, 2015 22:04:19 GMT
Not all children with a disability have complex needs. Some are quite straight forward. Just wanted to say to all prospective adopters look beyond the label. The perfect child might be there for you.
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Post by spideress on Nov 4, 2015 18:02:22 GMT
Having been told "not yet" by two agencies we tried again with a third one and the third one have agreed to process us for a 2nd time adoption application :-)
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Post by rosie on Nov 4, 2015 18:16:53 GMT
That's good news !
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Post by mudlark on Nov 4, 2015 20:47:08 GMT
....I dont think there is ever a child to adopt with no issues..attachment disorders, trauma and mental health are all invisible and potentially as challenging albeit in different ways for the adoptive parent to 'deal' with as physical disabilities...i think a thought to prospective adopters is... think carefully about what you rule out.
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Post by spideress on Nov 4, 2015 21:16:32 GMT
....I dont think there is ever a child to adopt with no issues..attachment disorders, trauma and mental health are all invisible and potentially as challenging albeit in different ways for the adoptive parent to 'deal' with as physical disabilities...i think a thought to prospective adopters is... think carefully about what you rule out. Yeah Incy would not be really officially listed as "issues" but he certainly has them including the physical (fine motor skill type stuff) results of his early life.
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Post by moo on Nov 5, 2015 9:47:23 GMT
Yay.... fantastic news spideress xxx
Please keep us posted.... I will be following your journey with keen interest xxx {{{}}}
Xx moo xx
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Post by imp on Dec 5, 2015 13:59:31 GMT
I can also confirm that 'in family' placements are being pushed for all children coming into care---no matter how distant the family link---and no, there is no training for these SGO carers, seemingly much shorter, less rigorous assessment, and questionable Intro planning.
The 'push' comes from the courts
I fear for these children, and dread being involved in handing the children over.
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Post by jmk on Dec 6, 2015 5:16:03 GMT
I share your fears Imp but they will save themselves bucket loads of money and that's all they care about unfortunately.
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