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Post by scaredycats on Jul 5, 2014 13:44:08 GMT
How strict were you guys with only letting LO have contact with you (and your partner if applicable) at the beginning? We have been instructed by SW and training team STRICTLY not to "introduce" LO to anyone else in the first month. Experiences please?
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Post by sooz on Jul 5, 2014 13:55:48 GMT
I wasn't very strict, we did keep things low key but introduced ds to quite a few family members early on.
So wish we hadn't and had stuck to keeping it just us for at least a month, or maybe introduced ds but not let anyone else hold him or give him a bottle. I still cringe when I think back to how confused that poor boy must have been!! I was so excited to 'show off' my gorgeous son.
Xx
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Post by flowerpower on Jul 5, 2014 14:02:18 GMT
It was winter time for us so it was easier to stay home and just play in the garden & home, but we never met up with family for 2 weeks and even then it was just grandparents popping over for about 1/2 hour must say after 4 weeks I think we all had cabin fever. But I think it helped them bond with us better and they always look for us for comfort and reassurance I do have friends that never followed the advice of SW and their LO talk and go to compleat strangers. I don't know if keeping LO to our self helped or they would of been like that anyway but I did not wont to risk it. But I must say it was not easy xx
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Post by flutterby on Jul 5, 2014 18:45:11 GMT
I was very strict, in fact, I had a blanket ban on anyone giving her anything or picking her up for the first 9 months. I have only relaxed this recently. I think it has helped in that Lo will always look to me first and not accept anything (even sweets!) from anyone unless I give it the thumbs up.
So hard to start with though, as life does become very lonely.
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Post by milly on Jul 5, 2014 19:06:44 GMT
No not that strict. We weren't really aware of the need when dd1 came to us over 12 years ago. It wasn't long till Christmas and we took her to visit both sets of gps and extended family. Wouldn't do that if I had my time over but not actually sure it caused any issues as dd coped with it and DH and I did all the caring for her. She was over familiar with strangers / people she hardly knew for a long time - in some ways she still is, or at least, will still occasionally develop over familiar relationships with eg staff at her school - but I was aware of the implications of that and worked on it. But I see it as a symptom of her attachment issues not an issue in itself - and those issues are not easily overcome.
We were much more aware with dd2 but it was tricky to avoid people for too long as it was the summer holidays and dd1 couldn't be kept cooped up at home all the time. Anyway in the first four weeks we had 4 different sws visit us (due to their holidays etc) so I couldn't see why friends and family couldn't meet her too - but did limit it. Also found out early on that what dd reacted to was OTHER people's houses - she was ok if people came to our house or if we met at the park - I think she was scared of being left at someone else's house (because she had had several moves and respite carers)
Personally I think it is very hard to be home alone with no contact with family and friends for a long time - so I think you have to be aware but realistic too. Also I don't believe the bond is formed in the first month - I know it took my children longer than that. With dd2 it was developing for years. You can't avoid others for that long! Dd2 has never had an issue with going to strangers - I think the tendency is formed early on and has nothing to do with what happens in the first month of the adoptive placement.
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Post by giggles on Jul 5, 2014 19:14:19 GMT
We were quite firm at the beginning. No personal care from anyone, actually for months. We would always be the ones there for him when waking up too, especially in the day time (was natural overnight / mornings as we were the only ones there!) also no milk or nappies or comfort when crying etc. I clearly remember my Mum giving him a bottle after about 6 months and it felt like a really big thing.
We introduced to a few family members after a couple of weeks but was all quite low key. He slept quite a bit then, he was only 4 months so was quite easy to restrict cuddles then.
I have no regrets doing it this way at all, however, I have found it quite difficult to relinquish control in some ways and let others help with DS, even after two years!. I wonder if anyone else has felt like this...
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Post by moo on Jul 5, 2014 19:31:48 GMT
I was quite strict too...
I vividly remember the celebration hearing in freezing freezing cold... I changed baa & skweek out of woolie snuggle travelling clothes into their suits on the mini bus & a great friend ( adopter ) who was one of our guests getting very snippy about how fabulous they looked but why wouldn't I let anyone else do it??..... I was really very shocked that she didn't get it!?.... So shocked I couldn't be bothered to explain... Nannie was there too understood & didn't attempt to help or get upset.... Bonkers... I do think it is very important.... This occasion to me was a very real memory pivotal in fact... Plus it was still only 6 months in....
Some things are just worth trying to stick with... This is the rest of you & l/o life & bonding is your way ahead....
Ok off my soap box now?!?!! Hth....
xx. moo. Xx
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Post by donatella on Jul 5, 2014 20:23:19 GMT
Wasn't particularly strict with any of mine. Had never heard of funneling first time round so went with gut feelings. My sister was the first to meet DS but shortly followed by my parents and then later by the outlaws. And pretty much impossible to manage anyway when nos 2 and 3 come along.
Whilst I totally get the theory I wanted my children and family to have a close relationship. And tbh I would have gone mad if I'd been stuck at home with one, two or three babies/toddlers.
So afraid I did it all wrong!
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Post by loadsofbubs on Jul 5, 2014 21:43:50 GMT
For some children its probably very necessary and for others less so, but unfortunately in that first month you're not going to know your LO well enough to know which camp they fall into so its pot luck really which ever course you take.
personally, as a fc, it would make my life completely impossible if I funnelled with every child that comes into my care, its simply not possible, but I do think that making sure that you, as a LO's primary carer/s need to be the one who does all care, gives comfort, feeds, holds, cuddles etc. none of that would exclude you from meeting other people. I do it by meeting others for myself and not the child, ie that the child is not the focus of the meeting. I know people want to show off their beautiful children, but in the early days I find it better to keep little ones very close, to introduce them vaguely and not as the main focus of peoples attention, and to not allow others to hold them.
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Post by imp on Jul 5, 2014 22:05:40 GMT
I really can't endorse the use of a sling too much. Just the very best way of keeping LO close, and able to get some things done at the same time---including getting some fresh air. Lots of different types, though at the early stages of placement I would suggest you use a front wrap, ring sling, mei tai or buckled carrier, or at very least a 'hippychick'hip carrier (useful to start with if LO wary of too much close contact)
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Post by cowgirl on Jul 6, 2014 0:23:48 GMT
Hi very strict. Funnelling was drummed into us at prep group. Drummed is the wrong term but I hope you Know what I mean. Endorsed would be better word. When my BS was born my niece was 10 months old. My SIL & MIL came most days. My SIL had had 10 months with her kid and knew what she was doing. I had a baby who I was soooooo keen to breast feed & I and the baby hadn't a clue. Everyone and I mean everyone had a discussion about the baby and it's loss of weight and I felt my boobs and my inability to feed him. It was bl**dy awful and I groaned every time I saw the car pull up. Now I love my MIL (my SIL is another post ) but I just wanted to be alone ! When my second arrived at 15 months I was delighted with the term funnelling. If he cried and I didn't know why then just I was there to see my panic. I really got on with the fc and should of called her for advice.
So in answer to your question I was glad to be "alone" to figure things out. Has it made a difference ? None of us will ever know. AUK do a fab leaflet explaining funnelling & why we perhaps discipline a certain way & I'd suggest you contact them for it. You can always pick & choose what you release to your family & friends. No experience on older children & I can't work my screen to see what age we are talking about so please feel free to ignore me congrats btw
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Post by scaredycats on Jul 6, 2014 9:08:00 GMT
Thank you so much for all of your replies. The LO we are talking about is 4 and a half months. We are meeting his SW and FC next week and Paediatrician the following week.
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Post by chotimonkey on Jul 6, 2014 14:56:52 GMT
hi we were different with each...with howler (8 months at placement) and curious george (10 months) we had the older sibs needs to balance out with the new babies. all our children came from busy foster placements with a lot of coming and going, so they were maybe less phased by bustle then a baby coming from a very quiet place.
we had our own version of funnelling that worked for us. family did visit but focused on the other children, leaving me to play with new bub, and we did get out and about... but only to quite chilled out places... we met fc at a soft play not long after curious george was placed and it completely overwhelmed him.
i had george and howler in a sling a lot when they arrived... having them tucked right into me was v bonding for us both, and with their faces nestled into my shoulder i felt i could keep them away from well meaning people. we stuck to their fc routine absolutely...we were never out at nap time, always made sure their food was ready 10 mins before their normal feeding time... no one but dh or i (for months and months and months) fed/ changed/dressed/ bathed/ comforted/ put lo to bed kept everything safe and repetitive, books, music, food, songs, toys etc i read each child three books every night, and when squiirel was first placed i read her goodnight moon every night for about two months, mied in with two different books on the rocking chair with a blanket, and tucking herself up on that chair swith a blanket is her favourite thing to do if she needs resetting i did start taking lo to groups by the end of the first month, but chose stuff like swimming where you have lts of skin to skin, holding and trust buildng
i think its different for everyone, you have to be mindful of the needs of your new child and also mindful of what makes you a better parent... i was better for seeing other people.. if it was just me at home after george was placed with three children of 10 months, 23 months and just 3 i would have gone postal!
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Post by scaredycats on Jul 6, 2014 15:32:16 GMT
Thanks, CM, will our LO be too big for a sling at 5.5 months? How long can you carry them like that for?
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Post by chotimonkey on Jul 6, 2014 16:31:51 GMT
you can carry them for ages in different slings... if you google sling meet, they are local groups where you can go and try on lots of different slings and see what works for you... you can also change slings as they get bigger, or the way you carry them... also if you have any problem areas...eg my friend who is pregnant has v dodgy hip so they have recommended a sling for her that shouldn't hrt her hip.
i used a tricotti - 2 bits of material that you wear in a criss cross (no tying) with george and howler...they were both huge babies and i slung them for quite awhile
now i have a maitai (im sure thats the spelling for the cocktail) and still wear my nearly 4 year old on my back on occasional times...
when they were getting too big to walk long distanmces i still used the slings around the house... curious george (17 months and a big boy)was ill recently and didn't want me to put him down at all fr three days straight, so he went back in the sling around the house so i could still do crafty stuff with the girls and make dinner etc
i don't know if you have thought about buggies... i have a single that i take george out in (that fits a buggy board big enough to squeeze the girls on in an emergency) but i can switch the seat from rear to forward facing and thats quite handy, sometimes i have him facing me and chat to him, but sometimes he wants to face outwards and see where he is going, i have also gone shopping with george in the sling so i could put more stuff in the buggy!
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Post by imp on Jul 6, 2014 18:22:34 GMT
LO certainly not too big for a sling at 5.5 months. As cm says, there are a variety, some with limited age range, some that can be adapted as Lo grows. As a FC. I use several depending on the size/age of LO. A sling meet would be great. if you have one near---we don't
You can 'carry' up to school age with the some slings, if you want to.
At the moment I have a hefty 3 month old and a dainty 21 month old, and use a Ring Sling---for shorter periods of time(very quick to put LO in)a Manduca (full buckle carrier) that I use for a front carry for the 3 month old and a back carry for the 21 month old, and a variety of length /weight wraps---long pieces of fabric---for both.
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Post by loadsofbubs on Jul 7, 2014 7:29:15 GMT
you just need to avoid slings that let the feet and legs on the baby dangle becoz there is no hip support for them which looks uncomfortable for bubs and is definitely uncomfortable for the person carrying them. you also need to carry them quite high, new slings and wraps will come with instructions on different ways to carry the bubs, but the higher up your chest/back they are the more comfy for you. I gave up carrying my eldest in a sling at 6 weeks old becoz I could only get the crotch dangler kind and he was a big baby but weighed about 12 lbs when I stopped. since I discovered wraps and meities I have been able to carry children up to 3 years old with little problem on front and back despite having hip and back problems, its actually easier than trying to carry them in your arms which can give you quite nasty backache particularly when the babies are new to you and you're trying to get them comfortable at the expense of your own arms and back!
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Post by changeisafoot on Aug 10, 2014 9:41:43 GMT
Haven't read all the replies but we were more strict than many others but still not that strict. You do need to get some balance so you feel supported and part of the world. But we are thinking about number 2 now and this time round we have already decided we will funnel even more than we did last time.
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Post by changeisafoot on Aug 10, 2014 9:43:18 GMT
To add we were very strict though on no one doing primary care for a very long time. We feel very comfortable that this helped our LO and are glad we took no notice of family/friends who said it was all mumbo jumbo. (they said it nicely!)
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Post by amberle on Aug 10, 2014 16:27:21 GMT
Hi, as you know we have just completed our first month, and we were strict for the first 3 weeks, and then we have booked in diary dates over the next few months so we can meet people. We agreed dates with everyone, so DQ would not be overwhelmed, we could still have her all to ourselves with no one randomly turning up. And also it meant all those want to share our excitement all had a date to look forward too..it has really worked for us, and means DQ at least once a week, gets to meet new people, gets more attention ( which she loves) and I Am happy enough with not over shadowing the big changes DQ has gone through..but I really think it depends on the LO..you will know if its all too early. DQ definitely let's us know if she is not happy ..lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 16:50:25 GMT
Thought I'd posted on here but obviously didn't.
We kept all personal care to just me or ex for about 3 months. Only ex's mother visited about once a week, staying for only about 30mins. DD's were terrified of her and used to cling to me like limpets, they cried every time she visited for about 5 months, (MIL is obese and has a big loud voice, demanding kisses and is not at all maternal, doesn't have a clue how to relate to kids).
We took them to Ireland to meet my family, but only after they'd been home about 3 months, prior to that it was mainly me and their father and one or two close friends, but we did all their care.
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Post by scaredycats on Aug 14, 2014 20:09:22 GMT
So far we have met no one - only 3 days in and really enjoying having him totally to ourselves. Skypeing both sets of grandparents everyday though.
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Post by scaredycats on Aug 16, 2014 6:59:06 GMT
"Meeting" the grandparents today (well one set anyway). A chance viewing at a cafe :-) Feeling excited about showing him off!
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