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Post by chotimonkey on Feb 24, 2014 20:51:15 GMT
I read the posts about imps post on the other site(which I think was completely valid and put forward in a helpful tone)
And saw a reasonable amount of newbie/ experienced disagreements on the old site
I was just wondering when do people feel that they thenselves or others are experienced...
I'm three years since beginning the process (9 months to approval, linked at ten months and placed at a 12 months) and 2 years since the placemebt of our first child
When it comes to giving advice to others, I feel fairly confident in helping people understand the process of approval/ matching, intros and v early placement, knowledge about the parenting of ac...but actual parenting, I feel we are all muddling on ok, but for me I feel it's too early to give parenting tips because it's too soo to see the long term effects of the way I parent in my kids and whether it's the right approach for them
I was just wondering when some of the more experienced adopters felt experienced... Or when they feel others reach 'adoption maturity'
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Post by wibbley on Feb 24, 2014 21:28:40 GMT
Having survived one very tricky teen, I think that all parenting and what you think you know about your child goes totally out the window once hormones kick in. This was my BC We are almost 5 & 6 years in with our AC's, I still have much to learn, I still have the teenage years to do with them. Cripes.
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Post by homebird on Feb 24, 2014 21:49:52 GMT
Our adoption is in to its 13th year but we have not experienced any problems apart from contact issues. Are we burying our heads in the sand....not recognizing problems like attachment issues.....who knows. Whatever we are doing works for us. So length of adoption probably does not equal experience, I would suggest that living with and dealing with issues as they arise will equal experience.
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Post by donatella on Feb 24, 2014 22:05:56 GMT
I'd say I'm fairly experienced with fighting schools, camhs, ed psychs. I've become loud, assertive and an advocate. I'm familiar with salt, ots and paeds. I've done behaviour support, learning support and PRUs. We're 1 adhd dx in, 2 Asd dxs, 1 spld. Plus therapy.
Clueless though when it comes to teens as we're not quite there yet so have all that to come.
Lots to learn still.
12, 9 and 8 years in!
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Post by loadsofbubs on Feb 25, 2014 7:51:19 GMT
I think that all adopters/birth parents/foster carers etc are as experienced as they are. if you have been through something you have experienced it. if you've had to fight tooth and nail for services to meet the needs of your child (be they adopted or birth) as has donna, and myself, then you have that experience and your experience might help someone else. if you've had an easy ride (in relative terms) then that is your experience and might be helpful to someone else. I don't honestly think that having things harder or having a child longer makes you more experienced, it just defines the experience you have. the problem with sharing experiences tho is that some people who don't have any, or have limited experience wont believe anything they don't actually want to believe, and also that some people without a lot of experience of some issues believe that having no experience still makes them an expert. anyway, that's my opinion on experience! having had one relatively easy to raise but with many problems unique to himself for 20 years certainly makes me an expert on him, and sometimes sharing that experience can be helpful to others, sometimes sharing that experience just p's other people off!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 9:56:53 GMT
I don't think there is any real time limit on it and we are all still learning every day, well at least I know I am, and I am adopted myself.
Think any kind of parenting is like that, you are always learning and hopefully making better decisions thanks to reading other peoples posts, it is an ongoing education daily IMO.
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Post by mayan on Feb 25, 2014 15:06:39 GMT
Interesting question choti
Well as a wrinkly I am still learning every day from the new adopters and those further along as well as those with children living away or distant from them. I have always found the diversity of experiences and the way people have worked through things very thought provoking for me and I have always deeply valued people taking the time to post and share - even with things that really challenged my thinking so I think everyone has something valid to offer after all we have all come this route from a myriad different experiences, each of which will bolster our resilience as adopters or require some work or quiet reflection on our parts.
For me the real strength is not so much advice giving but the safe and non judgemental sharing of experiences but most of all unqualified support. Life can be challenging enough - but words of support even from people who may not have walked in my shoes have made a huge huge difference to me over the years - supportive words and the kindness and thoughtfulness behind them have Given me so much strength to appreciate small moments of progress that others would not understand just how hard won they had been as well as helping me through some deeply challenging times especially when I was conflicted about sharing situations about my children with close family or friends as I would perhaps compromise their history which is for them to share as they feel the need.
I remember my ds being a complete pain at our local outdoor pool and having to regularly make him sit on the side with me til he calmed down - we persisted over the summer and he learned to swim but it was hard and I questioned whether it was worth it all never mind the embarrassment I felt as a mum. However one of the other mums I knew from the school gates (my son had made her son cry in his first term....so imagine my trepidation as she approached) came over and said she'd been watching me with my son and how patient and consistent I had been in parenting him through his challenges at the pool - words which have stuck especially when I doubted myself or should have been sat on the WP bench.
i don't think you need to wait to be "experienced" - we are all fellow travellers sharing views on our particular landscape - nor do you need to be experienced to offer a kind and uplifting word - it can be more powerful than advice IMHO especially as with advice, the listener really has to be in the place to be open to it or the timing has to be just so - supportive words can make that all the more possible and empower people beyond the moment to then reflect when they are able perhaps.
So do share choti and others who may hesitate and help make these boards a vibrant, diverse but most of all supportive place no matter at what stage we all may be.
mx
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Post by oysterbabe on Feb 25, 2014 16:25:16 GMT
I queried calling myself experienced on the post in Question and I'm 13years in. I have experienced the good, the bad and the ugly of the system and associated professionals/services and in some circles I am now a champion for carers and attend scrutiny groups, support groups (have been asked to run two) and service user groups, plus any adoption thing I think might be useful. Our experiences all make us who we are, that would never have happened without adopting my cherubs. I am not experienced though with prospective adopters and don't give advice to them for that reason. All I can do is say well my son did x y z at whatever age and he still does it now or he grew out of it at by doing xyz...
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Post by swimchic on Feb 25, 2014 17:10:58 GMT
What a great thought provoking question...
I was adopted, worked in childcare for 20 plus years before Pink came home and some days haven't got a darn clue what I'm doing! I'm taking each day at a time and probably will until the day Pink leaves home!
I think in the world of adoption there are so many variables, no two children are the same and every situation is unique. We all gain experience in our child needs and the challenges that life throws at them. Sadly it doesn't happen at once, but keeps on rolling...
At the end of the day, we are all learning and doing our best for our children.
That's what counts.
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Post by ceci on Feb 26, 2014 13:26:14 GMT
Great question!!! I'm 7.5 years in and still learning. Have been through some significant enough challenges (for my daughter's age and stage), still fighting for someone to recognise her additional needs and foresee very challenging teenage years. But I do feel I've learnt lots too… (mostly thanks to the boards). So experienced in some things and a novice in many others
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Post by moo on Feb 26, 2014 19:57:22 GMT
Great post so thought provoking.... I never truly believe I am experienced enough 5 years in.... Had to deal with so much as we all have /do on a regular basis.... But I love the replys you have got so far coz it just sums up what this particular board has been about IMHO from day one.... It is support & understanding & just being here for each other... As with personality we all bring so much to our journeys for our children.... I think it is mostly about understanding & not judging Mayan says it all so very very well....
oh oh & teenage dilemmas I cannot bear to even think let alone live it
btw I had a badge once that said "expert " = drip under pressure
Xx. moo. Xxx
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